PCMCIA CAN/2 und DIADEM

Hello Everyone,
can anyone tell me if the PCMCIA CAN/2 is directly supported by Diadem / Max WITHOUT the use of external drivers (ie Vector db files)?
Thanks, Jeff

Hello Jeff,
the only thing you need is the NI_CAN driver for your device. Then install the driver, put in the device, go to MAX and make a channel list. Start DIAdem, got to DAC module. There you will find a CAN block. in it you can load the CAN channels and work with it.
Hope this helps,
Rebecca Fox
Applications Engineer
National Instruments

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PCMCIA-CAN/2

ich möchte die PCMCIA-CAN/2 nutzen, um Firmware in einen Digitalen Signalprozessor (DSP56F807) zu laden.
Ein entsprechender Bootloader existiert bereits für einen ähnlichen Controller, ein PC-DOS-Programm zum Laden der Firmware in den Controller ebenfalls. Jedoch sofort nach Aufruf dieses Programmes erscheint die Fehlermeldung 0xBFF62002 (Driver-Error), obwohl die CAN-Karte Korrekt installiert ist (Driver-Version 2.2). Der Selbsttest lief erfolgreich durch, der Zugriff auf die CAN-Karte mittels LabVIEW funktioniert reibungslos. Im Kapitel 1.2.1.3 des beiliegenden PDF-Dokumentes ist beshrieben, wie mit dem Tool umzugehen ist.
Woran kann der Fehler liegen?

Hallo,
es geht speziell um das Tool "sRecLoad.exe" von Freescale (ehemals Motorola). Dieses Tool dient dafür, um Firmware über CAN in einen Microcontroller zu laden. Dabei werden die *.s - Files über die CAN-Karte an den Controller übertragen und dieser speichert sie dann im internen Flash.
Soeben habe ich die gleiche Prozedur mit der Version 2.3 probiert, da scheint dieser Fehler nicht mehr vorhanden zu sein. Ich schicke beide Versionen der NicanErr.txt, woran kann der Fehler liegen? Was wurde in Version 2.3 geändert?
D.R.
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PCMCIA-CAN/2 Series 2 works on windowa Vista?

Hey ,
We are using the PCMCIA-CAN/2 Series 2 CAN Card for our application.We are moving to Windows Vista very soon.I was not sure if I can use the same CAN card for the vista operating system?
I've seen some post about PCMCIA DAQ not working on Vista? is it the same with CAN card too? Details of the CAN card below.
http://sine.ni.com/nips/cds/view/p/lang/en/nid/1332
Thanks
-Vamshi Ainapur
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Hello Vamshi,
The NI-CAN 2.6 driver supports the PCMCI-CAN Series 2 under Vista x86. Please note that the PCMCIA-CAN and PCMCIA-CAN/2 interfaces are not supported on the 64-bit version of Windows Vista. This information is available in the readme file, located on the driver's download page.
Have a great week.
O. Proulx
National Instruments
www.ni.com/support

Any USB adaptor other than PCMCIA can be used in Powerbook G3?

Hi all,
Any USB adaptor other than PCMCIA can be used in Powerbook G3 (as no USB)?
My powerbook G3 is installed with MacOSX 10.2 and i want to access my portable Hard Disk (format under windows platform) . . . is that possible to access like "plug and play" using USB adaptor ?
Many thanks.

white_tiger,
You can use both FireWire and USB CardBus PC cards. CardBus supports both 32-bit and the older PCMCIA 16-bit protocols.
A FireWire PC card is natively supported in all versions of OSX...no drivers to install.
USB 1.1/2.0 PC cards are also natively supported but it gets a little more complicated:
- The older USB 1.1 cards work fine under all versions of OSX.
- The newer USB 2.0 cards also work under all versions of OSX with this caveat: Apple added USB 2.0 support to OSX 10.2.8 and later; if your USB 2.0 card does not have the NEC-based USB2 chipset and you are running 10.2.8 or later, the card will not work properly. USB 2.0 PC cards with the wrong chipset, however, will work properly with OSX up through 10.2.7 but at the slower 1.1 speeds..
A few other points:
- PC cards supply only a minimal amount of bus power, so if you want to connect a portable FW or USB HD, it will need its own power supply.
- A Mac can only read/write to Fat and Fat32 drives; OSX 10.3 and 10.4 can see an NTFS drive but as read-only.
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Synchronize PCMCIA-CAN/2 and USB-DAQPAD-6015

Hi,
I would like to know if is it possible to synchronize data from a PCMCIA-CAN/2 and a USB-DAQPAD-6015 like using two PCMCIA cards with RTSI bus.
Tx for your answers.

Hi christophe14,
it's no problem to synchronize a Series 2 PCMCIA-CAN/2 card and a USB-DAQPAD-6015. However, you might want to take a look at this this KnowledgeBase article.
Similar to using a PCMCIA-CAN and a DAQcard, you would need to use the PCMCIA-CAN Synchronization Cable to connect the PCMCIA-CAN card to the 68-pin connector of the USB-DAQPAD.
-B2k

PCMCIA CAN and MAX Bus Monitor

I have a series 1 PCMCIA CAN Controller Card (184272F-01) and Series 1 CAN Cable (184354B-01) attempt to communicate with a DDC RPC CAN Interface (29bit arbitration ID, 250K Baud)
Command: Version ID?: 0000 0000 0000 001B
29bit ArbID: 0x18EFE3E1
1-First does MAX actually wrap the remainder of the Full CAN message, for example the CRC checksum?
2-Can I run the Bus Monitor and send out the message with Test Panel at the same time?
thanks in advance,
JS

1. Yes it does.
2. Yes you can.
Have Fun.
DirkW

Pcmcia-CAN/2 no ack

Hi,
I am working with a NI PCMCIA CAN/2 Series 2 Card. I have an application which sends commands to a Freescale microcontroller and receives responses using the Frame API. The card will sucessfully send the message every time I instruct it to, however after getting a few valid responses, the card no longer acknowledges the next received frame which forces the microcontroller to transmit the same message over and over again. The message that is not getting acknowledged has the valid arbitration ID and valid data.
I am verifying all CAN traffic using Intronix Logic Port Logic Analyzer. I am almost certain it has nothing to do with the way the Labview application is written because this is also occurring with some of the CAN examples.
I am not sure who to contact at NI, because the FAE in our area is not very helpful. I have a PCI and another PCMCIA card being shipped here next week, but I would like to figure out why the card I have is doing this.
Thanks,
Gary

Not many FSE's are so familiar with CAN Bus to answer this kind of question. But you could call your branch support and they would certainly love to help you out.
Make sure all connected devices are having the same kind of transceiver. (High speed, Low Speed or Single Wire). Additionally based on your transceiver type make sure the cabling is terminated correctly. For High Speed for example both ends of the cable should be terminated with 120 ohm resistors.
Hope that helps.
DirkW
Message Edited by DirkW on 09-08-2008 09:05 AM

Install of PCMCIA CAN Series 2 Card

When I boot up my computer with my NI PCMCIA-CAN/2 Series 2 card, it locks up in mid-boot. If I try to put the card in when windows (XP) is running, it freezes. I had this problem at first, and then it disappeared for a short time, but is back again. I essentially had to re-boot my computer several times before it recognized the card, but this trick has stoped working. I have installed the latest NI CAN software (verson 2.3) and still am having the problem. The card is new. I recieved it in march, but only just pulled it out about a month ago, and have only had a few days since then to try and work with it. What could I try to fix this?

Hi James,
That sounds like as if you got a bad card. Your card is still under
warranty. Please contact your local National Instruments branch office to get the board
checked/repaired and give them the same description of the problem.
-B2k

Driver for PCMCIA-CAN series 2 card needed

Looking for the driver for the PCMCIA-CAN series 2 card.......
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Not sure what version is needed, but this may get you started:
http://search.ni.com/nisearch/app/main/p/ap/tech/pg/1/sn/ssnav:sup,catnav:du,n13:hardwareDriver,n8:2...
-AK2DM
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USB-CAN 8473 and Diadem/MAX

Hello,
I have a USB 8473 which I would like to use with Diadem. Under Max I can see the devices and create channels which refer to these two devices. However in Diadem all the channels are visble but not available (red Xs). Any ideas here as to what I am doing incorrectly here?
Thanks,
Jeff

Hello Jeff,
there are two APIs for NI-CAN, the channel API and the frame API. The DIAdem driver for NI-CAN is based on the channel API of NI-CAN. Unfortunatelly this API is not supported by the USB-CAN modules. These modules support only the frame API of NI-CAN. Thus DIAdem does not support the USB-CAN modules.
Unfortunatelly in MAX you can assign a CAN message to a USB-CAN port so that you might think everything is fine with this setup. But if you launch the Testpanel, you will see that you cannot run it on the USB-CAN ports.
Rainer

How can I communicate with my PCMCIA-CAN/2 card using Java?

I need to write a Java program to send messages via CAN. The program I used with the Win NT driver of the PCMCIA-CAN/2 card worked. But I have to use Win 2000 now and the new driver nican V 1.6 doesn't work (can't send messages via CAN from my Java program). Thanks in anticipation.

Do you get any error code/message back? Sounds like the Java wrappers that you made for the C dll's need to be recompiled? If the application runs in a weird way using the bus monitor.exe (\NI-CAN) would help.

PCMCIA-CAN Series 2 hanging

Hello,
We are using a PCMCIA-CAN series 2 board on two of our machines to get/send PDO data to CANOpen network of 6 nodes.
Built in 2007, Labview 2010 application (using CANOpen library 1.1.3 in combination with NI-CAN version 2.7.4) seemed to work OK mainly because we used it on short period of time (under 12h). To run more longer tests, we run now the machine over 24h continuously and this revealed a small bug. We investigated the case first with NI-SPY. It reported a communication lost problem with the board firmware and propose different solutions or checks (windows interrupts, application code, etc...).
In our application, we have two loops to send and get PDOs on the network. We use function "Wait for PDO" to wait for a TPDO during a time slot and if not received we switch to wait for another one and so on. The other loop takes care of the RPDOs the same way. We have no more than 14 RPDOs or TPDOs for our network. We checked the code and even slow down the switching but bug is still appearing.
We then run the application with other faster computer and made all software updates. Now, NI-TRACE reports (attached with this post) other errors but symptoms are still the same. Application is not able to communicate with board to get/send the PDOs values (or send/recaive SDOs) even the nodes on the CAN network are running OK. It seems that firmware implemented on board stopped functionning or hanged.
We contacted NI sales representative in order to get version 1.1.4 of the CANOpen library (support for LV 2010) but did not get any proposal at this time. We suppose that there is no firmware update as the product is now obsolete. Of course, recommandation was also to switch to new NI PCI board with new library for industrial communications but which is unforunately a little too large to be installed in our panel PC. Another manufacturer hardware will fit for sure...
Reading back my posts in 2007-2008, I remembered also that the PCMCIA boards had more limitations than others PCI boards for example. But, before changing hardware and rewriting the code, I want to give these boards (and all the work done in the past) a last chance.
Does one of you have suggestions or solutions for me ?
Thanks in advance.
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20130329SMTSpyCapture.nitrace ‏304 KB
nicanErr.txt ‏5 KB

Hello,
Please find below two snapshots of the code and in particular the TPDO and RPDO loops I have in my main vi.
The TPDO loop receives an array of clusters containing each with TPDO elements declared. Array contains 7 elements actually. TPDO time refresh time has been set to 200ms so that loop switches on a waiting time for each TPDO around 28ms. CAN network speed is 1Mbits/s and the 6 CAN nodes has been setup to send their TPDOs every 20 or 30ms. Only the one used are sent.
The vi "Get TPDO data" is implementing the TPDO wait function. If a new TPDO is available, its value is compared with the stored one (in array element). If new, the TPDO cluster is updated and put in a queue. Then, in this Producer/Consumer queue principle, the second loop dispatches the values in the variables.
The RPDO loop is based on same principle except that the 2 RPDOs are set every 50 ms. The application then uses SDO to send other commands to the nodes.
When our problem appears, we notice that values are not refreshed anymore on the front panel, even commands with SDO are no more possible. Spying the CAN network shows normal activity of the nodes.
First error message we got from NI-SPY was :
“Overflow in the lower level read queue of the CAN card (frames lost). NI-CAN reads this queue at Windows interrupt-time. Solutions: Avoid tasks that generate excessive interrupts on your PC (mouse, ethernet, ...); Avoid running other
applications during your test (screen savers, MAX, ...); use Series 2 Filter Mode to filter incoming traffic; For CAN Objects (Frame API), increase read queue length or call Read more frequently”
So we checked our configuration and computer (scren saver, network connection, etc...). We also ran the application with another one, made updates... Now NI-TRACE reports the information contained in the files attached to my last post. Hard to find the bug if it occurs only after several hours of running time...
With these information, any suggestions or comments ?
Thanks.
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TPDO Loop.PNG ‏100 KB
RPDO Loop.PNG ‏68 KB

Zeitdarstellung Graph und Diadem-Report

Hallo Zusammen!
Irgendwie bekomme ich es nicht hin in meinem Graphen eine reelle Zeit (X-Achse) anzeigen
zu lassen. Habe schon alles versucht und der Graph zeigt mir jedesmal falsche Zeitwerte, da er
diese immer über die Sample-Frequenz (Bis zum nächsten Vielfachen...) berechnet.
Stelle ich die Zeit des Schleifendurchlaufs auf 1s (1Hz), funktioniert es.
Ich möchte aber auch gerne andere Samplefrequenzen einstellen können und trotzdem eine reelle Zeit
angezeigt bekommen.
Habe auch schon versucht mit den Einstellungen, "Format und Genauigkeit" des Graphen zu experimentieren
...leider ohne erfolg!
Analog dazu soll auch die Zeit im Diadem-Report dargestellt werden...was mir ebenfalls nicht gelingen will.
Wie kann ich das realisieren?
Wär euch sehr dankbar, wenn ihr mir helfen könntet...
Gruß Stonei
Anbei meine VI's LV v8.2 / Diadem v10.1
Message Edited by Stonei on 04-13-2008 08:23 PM
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Since your time interval can change during acquisition, you probably need and xy graph and keep track of the time.
(If the loop rate is fixed, you can use a waveform graph and set x0 to the start time and deltaX to the loop time using a property node). Currently, your x0=0 and dx=1, which has nothing to do with any reasonable time axis in this case.
You have some funny code in there! To initialize an array to zero, you could just use the default value of the output tunnel. Using "delete from array" with a lenght=Inf boggles the mind.
Message Edited by altenbach on 04-13-2008 06:52 PM
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DIAdem 9.1 und DIAdem 3

Hallo miteinander
Kann ich 2 DIAdems (9.1 & 3.x) auf demselben Rechner installieren?
Grund: Altes Programm läuft mit Aut nur auf altem DIAdem 3.x (Konvertieren auf VBS zu umständlich)
Danke für Eure Antworten.

Hallo,
generell spricht nichts dagegen, zwei unterschiedliche DIAdem versionen parallel auf einem Rechner zu betreiben. Dabei ist jedoch folgendes zu beachten, dass Hardwaretreiber in der Regel nur in einer Version installiert sein dürfen. Wenn Sie die gleiche Messhardware in beiden DIadem versionen nutzen möchten, stellen Sie bitte vorher sicher, dass beide Versionen den entsprechenden Treiber unterstützen.
Der Betrieb von DIAdem 3 und 9.1 auf einem Rechner ist allerdings nicht möglich, dafür liegen die beinden Programmversionen zu weit auseinander.
DIAdem 3 ist eine 16bit Applikation und wird maximal noch auf einem Widows 95 Rechner laufen, DIAdem 9.1 läuft auf 32bit und erfordert mindestens Windows NT.
Allerdings ist DIAdem 9.1 auch in der Lage, AUTs auszuführen. Wenn nicht auf Hardware zugegriffen wird, für die es nur 16bit Treiber gibt, sollten Sie Ihr Programm also auf die neuere Version migrieren können, ohne die Autosequenzen in VBS umwandeln zu können. Da sich in der Version 9 im Vergleich zu den Vorgängern recht viel getan hat, lesen Sie am Besten zunächst den Knowledgebase Artikel "DIAdem 9.1 Migration" um festzustellen, ob mit der Autosequenz auf der neuen version Probleme zu erwarten sind.
Ingo Schumacher
Systems Engineer Sound&VibrationNational Instruments Germany

Can't install DIAdem 11 SP1

DIAdem.exe - Entry Point Not Found
The procedure entry point diadataChannelValueTypeChangeExt could not be located in dynamic link library DIAdata.dll
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Hallo Otmar,
I am not able to install Diadem 11.1 from the link you have given in this post. When I run the .exe file, it shows the following error
I have many .LPD files (from my colleague's data). Now I need to open these layout files to modify (since I am not able to get all the original data from him) the curve color and font size to publish the results in a scientific paper.
But I am not able to install the 11.1 Diadem to open these files. My operating system is Windows
I know "It is helpful to note, that as of the current version of Diadem (Diadem 11.1), you can open .LPD files. This makes the REPORT view backward compatible. Remember, you cannot save into .LPD format from the newer versions of Diadem".
Could you please help me to solve the problem?
Thank you,
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Master Student,
Fraunhofer Institute,
Germany

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