Photomerge Scene Cleaner in PS CS4

Is there a way to get at the Photomerge Scene Cleaner functionality that is in Photoshop Elements via full Photoshop CS4?
I can't figure it out, and it's exactly what I need for this set of images I'm working with.
Thanks.

See a video tutorial here:
Scene-Cleaner
I vaguely recall CS4 Extended might have a more automated Scene Cleaner feature but others who have that version will need to confirm.

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    Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 18:41:29 -0600
    From: [email protected]
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Photomerge Scene Cleaner -- source rectangle is empty
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    18:22   Repeats the problem as described according to the file.
    18:30   Puts me on hold as he goes to find articles.
    18:36   Asks me to share the desktop. Connecting to connectteam.acrobat.com
    18:44   Upload of log file complete, reading over it.
    18:48   Sharing screen caps of installation error messages.  I've been thoroughly documenting each and every single one. Instructs me           to download and AdobeCS4cleanscript. When I explain that I've already used the CS3 version I'm informed that the CS3 version           should never be used to try and clean up a CS4 installation since it won't work.
    18:56   I'm informed that TS closes at 19:00 and that he won't be able to finish this call.   However, if I read article kb 401401 I should           find some steps that will solve the issues that I'm experiencing.
    19:01   While looking for the article I inform him that I can't access my TS updates on the           Support Portal and that in a previous call Phone Support was not able to explain          why. Might he have any idea why? He says he'll check it out.
    19:05   "That's odd.  I'll add this complaint to the file."
                Animesh adds that If this knowledge base article does not resolve the issue, I should make sure to call back. He's added a note in the file to automatically escalate my call to Tier3 TS.
                "What? There's a T3?" I ask. "Why has it taken 2 weeks to get this call escalated to tier 3?"
                He apologizes if this taken so long to be escalated but there are definite checks and procedures that need to be followed before a call can be escalated to Tier 3.
    April 15th
    11:10   Starting new uninstall of CS4
    11:20   Uninstaller error with InDesign.
    11:31   Running CS4cleanscript, all options.
    11:49   Completed running CS4cleanscript followed by a manual clean-up of remaining   folders.  Starting a new install.
    12:04   Install error with Flash 10 ActiveX.
    12:06   Install error with Flash 10 plug-in.
    12:37   Installer finished, with errors.
    12:53   Test launched every application in the Suite and they seem to be working in spite of the errors. So be it, I'm never calling Adobe TS again.
    Questions and suggestions to Adobe
    In spite of not having my issue corrected I must say that the politeness of every representative was exemplary.
    While I realise software piracy is a big issue, why is it that pirates don't struggle with your DRM system yet legal users do? Either scrap your current DRM and replace it with something that will not cripple a system if an installation goes wrong or change your installers.
    Software suites are convenient yes but there are now so many modules that come bundled with the suite that seem utterly pointless because the documentation for them is sorely lacking an "at a glance" explanation of features, benefits and purpose. Adobe Air, Sing, Version Cue and Bridge come to mind. Don't you think cutting down on module bloat would make interoperability an easier thing to manage and maintain?
    As a user who has multiple hard drives in his system (one each for the OS, applications and project data) I don't like installers that place files all over my system without my consent. If an installer asks for a destination folder, ALL programs should go into that folder. Files and programs that are shared across the suite for added functionality or registration purposes should ask for a user-specified shared folder (in case there is one) rather than just go into the (assumed) default.
    Why is the Support DB's search function so useless? I've tried (and tried, and tried, and tried...) to find useful solution articles but something is just plain wrong with your search algorithms. I've tested this. Pick an article at random, then do a search for it's title. Too often the search engine won't even find it. The only time searches work is if one has the precise number of the article, such as KB 401401.
    The amount of checks and procedures required for service escalation needs to be streamlined in order to speed up the process. It took too long to get to the right Tier. By the time I was finally escalated to Tier 3 your support services had eroded all of their credibility.
    Practices and procedures (P&P) need to be more uniform. I have one tech telling me to use one version of clean script and claiming it's fine whereas another claims that only the CS4 script would work to resolve my issue. Why is this? What does this reveal about levels of training? There is also large gaps in the knowledge of individual representatives. As should be expected, some representatives knew exactly what to do and how to do it without having to resort to articles every 3 minutes.  Others, such as Sanjay, either need to be retrained or let go. His lack of knowledge was thoroughly exasperating.
    The case id system needs to be reworded. Over these 2 weeks I was given 4 case id's, none of which ended up showing up in the support portal for follow-up.  Furthermore, note taking seems to be a problem because there was a lot of information that just never seemed to make it "in the file".
    Why do calls get transferred to the wrong department so often?
    In Closing
    Due to having more pressing matters to attend to at work and seeing as how I could not afford to spend any more time fixing the harm that was brought on by carrying out the suggested "solutions" I have not called back since April 15th. The suite runs "with quirks" and will stay that way until I rebuild the system because it seems that the only solution that remains regarding the installation woes is to wipe the drive and start from scratch.
    Thank you for reading this whole transcript. I hope it helps you improve your customer service experience.
    Marc-Andre Renaud

    Thank you for the sympathy and the information about the Adobe.com forum Michael.
    I posted here because, to be honest, for a company that's acknowledged their installers and updaters and support needs some work, they seem very determined to obfuscate the means by which users can provide direct feedback to the company. Much like you, I've also noticed a trend in CS5 installations that mirrors the issues that were present in CS4. it's a sad state of affairs.
    As for my installation, you are also quite right to say that a clean install would have been a lot faster than what I went through with TS and it was actually my first idea. Before calling TS I'd actually read through the forums and noticed that a large number of users who were faced with my situation had no other choice but to reformat. I was just giving Adobe the benefit of the doubt and wasted 2 and a half weeks through that course of action...
    What makes this situation even more frustrating is that the installer failed on a fresh system. It was a custom-built design machine, assembled and configured by myself. The only software that had been installed on it prior to Design Premium was Firefox, an FTP client and the start of my problems, trial versions of various CS4 programs. I used trials just long enough to retire the previous design computer so that I wouldn't contravene the EULA's stipulation of not running more than one instance of software at the same time on different machines.  Turns out being honest once again penalised a legal customer.
    If there is just thing users should learn from my far from unique tale of failed tech support it's that if you ever run into a problem with the installation, don't bother calling TS, just reformat and start from scratch.  It might seem like it'll take longer to get going again, but in actuality, it's the opposite. Reformatting means you'll be up and running in about 1 or 2 days rather than 2 weeks.
    Marc

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