Plain text signatures

Being an old die hard I use plain text for my emails. I've noticed (only recently, perhaps since 10.4.5 upgrade) that in the signature window and in the email I'm composing that the signature shows as as (I think) Times font. However, it appears to arrive as plain text.
If I highlight the signature before sending and go to choose Format > Make Plain Text I find that the option is still Make Rich Text implying that it is already plain text.
In case it's relevant my chosen font for plain text is Monaco.

Being an old die hard I use plain text for my
emails.
If you are sending plain text it doesn't matter what
the message looks like to you
It does, that's why I've posted the question
No, thanks for the reply, I do understand what you mean and I appreciate that I have no control over what it looks like at the other end, it's just that I have some signatures which are several lines of text and it bugs me to see the message in one font then my signatuer in another.

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