Powermac G5 1.8Ghz June 2004 won't boot anymore

Hi all,
Past week i've bought a second hand PM G5. At first it seems to be all ok, but right now its not working anymore.
I've managed to install the OSX on the first evening i've had the PM G5. After installing evrything seemed to be fine. But after 30 minutes surfing on the internet, it froze. I had to give it an hard reset by holding down the power button.
After turning it of, it won't boot anymore. after a few times trying with 10 secconds between it, i unpluged the powercabel for 2 minutes. Wile turning it on after 2 minutes, it was booting , but it stopped booting after 1,5 minute and froze.. after hard resetting it, i've managed to boot it right. The OS seemed to be ok again, but after 5 till 10 minutes it froze again.
Right now it won't boot anymore... it starts (without the front light, this light only blinks fast once i turn it on, but after that no more. Sometimes it won''t even flash.
I've been buzzy replacing some components to get to know if it was a hardware fail. I've first replaced the PSU with two other PSU's from the PM G5, but won't do a thing.
The i've replaced the memory with 4 kind of difrent pairs, but won't do a thing either. At last i replaced the Logic Board, this won't even do a thing about it.
Of course i replaced the PRAM battery first, but also this won't help me.
I've tested it in AHT, but evrything was working well, according to AHT. I've managed to get the system log, but nothing scarry though here also, only some 122 errors some times. (download the system log here: http://www.mijnbestand.nl/Bestand-F4DDN66WLRCI.log )
I've reset al things possible like PRAM reset, PMU reset. Nothing seem to be working.
What can i do next to get this thing work?? I'm getting nut's here..
Please help..
Thanks a Lot
MArtijn Snoek

Hi martijnsnoek, and a warm welcome to the forums!
Can you count the beeps or flashes?
1 beep = no RAM installed
2 beeps = incompatible RAM types
3 beeps = no good banks
4 beeps = no good boot images in the boot ROM (and/or bad sys config block)
5 beeps = processor is not usable
In addition to the beeps, on some computers the power LED will flash a corresponding number of times plus one. The LED will repeat the sequence after approximately a 5-second pause. The tones are only played once.
Note: In this case, a flash is considered to be 1/4 second or 250 ms or greater in length.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1547
So, with the info you given, two things come to mind...
Bad solder joints around the RAM slots, try heating that area with a Hair Dryer for 3 to 5 minutes, then see if it starts.
If you can get it running, Get Temperature Monitor to see if it's heat related...
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/12381/temperature-monitor
And/or iStat Pro...
http://www.islayer.com/apps/istatpro/
If you have any temps in the 70°C/160°F range, that's likely it.
BTW, have you blown the dust out of it since you got it?

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8. Restarted system. System still boots to install disc.
7. Installed 10.5 onto 'Backup Boot' partition on 2TB drive.
8. System restarts OK.
9. From 2TB hard drive system. set ssd to startup disc.
10. System restarts to 2TB hdd.
11. Restart system, hold down option, ssd appears. select as boot disc.
12. System boots to ssd, and the welcome animation starts to complete the install.
13. Download the 10.5.8 combo update and install.
14. System doesn't reboot to ssd, but 2tb hdd.
Aware the booting requires a system folder (drive) to be 'blessed', I started poking around the web to verify if the ssd was set for the startup.
Running the command : 'bless -info' returned the following:
finderinfo[0]:    215 => Blessed System Folder is /Volumes/System 10.5/System/Library/CoreServices
finderinfo[1]: 239774 => Blessed System File is /Volumes/System 10.5/System/Library/CoreServices/boot.efi
finderinfo[2]:      0 => Open-folder linked list empty
finderinfo[3]:      0 => No OS 9 + X blessed 9 folder
finderinfo[4]:      0 => Unused field unset
finderinfo[5]:    215 => OS X blessed folder is /Volumes/System 10.5/System/Library/CoreServices
64-bit VSDB volume id: 0x9FC3EB20743384E4
So the system was 'blessed'. Tried the 'option key' method at startup but still not getting the ssd to appear as a valid boot option.
Looked on the OCZ website which has a Mac OS boot utility for flashing the firmware on the ssd drive BUT the drive is already on the current firmware : 1.5.2
Running out of ideas, short of re-formatting and re-installing the system onto the ssd.
Any ideas of other fixes?
(Feedback really appreciated).
Screengrabs of sata drive profiles attached. (hopefully)
Thanks in advance.
Ps. Ssd drive appears on desktop reads / writes / etc when booting into the hdd.

THANKS BDAqua FIXED !!
I hadn't installed the ssd into the top slot due to not being able to easily fit the apple rounded hd screws into the mounting tray - hence just letting it sit in the lower position. By working out the holes of the OCZ tray with some other hd screws, I was able to fit the apple hd screws then slot into the top (upper) position & the 2tb drive in the lower position.
Now all working as expected. Thanks again.
Matt.

G4 Dual 800 won´t boot anymore...

Hi!
My G4 Dual 800Mhz Mac won´t boot.
2 times the date was on 01.01.1970
After 2 restarts the mac make nothing.
When i press the power on button nothing happens.
No light in the button, nothing. No startup sound, no Harddrive sound. Nothing...
What should i make?
A new power supply?
I tried a new battery, i have made a PMU Reset.
The problem ist still hold on.
What should i make?

Hi, thorx, and welcome to the Discussions!
You have checked the power cord to insure it is transmitting power from the wall outlet, UPS, or surge suppressor, etc., right? If not, disconnect it from the back of the Mac and check it with a voltmeter or a simple electrical tester.
You can easily test the power supply with a voltmeter, while the power supply is in the Mac. Here's a link to the procedure, which is for a Gigabit Ethernet Mac. There is only one difference in this procedure when testing a QuickSilver; that is, the voltage reading at pin 22 should read +25 volts, not the +28 volts shown for the Gigabit Ethernet. Other than that, it's identical.
The procedure might look intimidating at first glance, but it really is pretty easy.
Here's another link to a page which has a color-coded pinout diagram, which might help to identify the pins by wire color, making things easier.
Gary
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My MacBook won't boot anymore. What can I do?

Hi,
yesterday I upgraded to Mountain Lion. After the installation, my MacBook booted and everything seemed fine. I started using Mountain Lion. Then I shut my MacBook down and I won't boot up anymore today. What can I do?
Additional Information:
MacBook Pro 13" Early 2011
Upgraded HDD to SSD (OCZ Petrol 256GB)

What did you do to fix it?

Treo 800w won't boot anymore

For the last few weeks my treo 800w has been having random problems with shutting off and then not wanting to boot or requiring a hard reset to boot again. It now won't boot even doing the hard reset procedure. Also the led doesn't come on when it is plugged in anymore. It comes up to a blue screen with small white boxes in the upper left when it comes on after trying the hard boot. Any ideas what went wrong with it ?
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I would bring it in to your local Sprint store to see if they can fix it or replace it under your insurance plan.
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Hi everyone
I havea a big problem and I hope someone can help me out.
I have a G3 Blue & White with
PCU:300 Mgz
Rams:896 MB
HDD:130 GB
I had Tiger installed on it and worked perfectly,but classic would not boot up because it would say that Mac OS 9.1 was not installed.
So I decided to copy the system folder from my OS 9.1 intall disk to my hard drive(big mistake).
Then I went on Preferences, Startup disk, and it showed the icons of Mac OS X Tiger and Classic 9.1.So I decided to put Classic as startup disk(bigger mistake)because now,my Mac won't boot.It keeps saying
"The system software on the startup disk only functions on the original media,not if copied on another disk.
Now even if I try to boot with my install disk,OS 9.1 or Panther or Tiger,it just won,t boot from the disk.There is that little window with ? in it.
Now I have a Mac that won't boot.
Please,can anyone help me out
Thank you
Mario

Mario:
I don't mind reformating my HDD and do a clean installation but I cannot boot no matter what i do.
This may be a problem, as you will need to be able to boot from both the OS 9 install disk and the Tiger install disk. If you are not able to boot it may be that you are having an issue with the optical drive. In any case, I will post some directions and we will see if you can manage to get it going. First we will do a complete low level format with the OS 9 installer, install and update OS 9 and then when that is working satisfactorily we will install and update Tiger. All of this, of course, is dependent on whether you can boot from the optical drive.
Format and Install OS 9
This process will completely erase everything on your Hard Disk Drive. Be sure to Backup your User Folder and all third party apps you can't afford to lose
• Boot from your OS 9 install CD holding down C key.
• Go to Drive Setup and reformat your drive as Mac OS Extended (HFS+)
• Reinstall OS 9
• Update to 9.2.2: Mac OS 9: Available Updates
• Update your firmware
Once this is completed, you are ready to install Tiger.
Installation Process
• With computer shut down insert install disk in optical drive.
• Hit Power button and immediately after chime hold down the "C" key.
• Select language
• Open Installer and begin installation.
• Select installation option as Archive and Install. *This is important as you do not want to overwrite OS 9, which you just installed.*
• Choose to Customize and deselect Foreign Language Translations and Additional Printer drivers.
Optional: Check box to install X11 (Tiger and later) BSD Subsystems (Panther & earlier).
• Proceed with installation.
• After installation computer will restart for setup.
• After setup, reboot computer.
• Go to Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility.
• Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left side bar.
• Select First Aid in main panel.
• Click Repair Disk Permissions.
• Connect to Internet.
• Download and install Mac OS X 10.4.11 Combo update (PPC) (Tiger).
• Repair Disk Permissions as previously.
• Go to Apple Menu > Software Update.
• Install all updates.
Computer may restart after updates.
• Go to Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility.
• Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left side bar.
• Select First Aid in main panel.
• Click Repair Disk Permissions.
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