Pre operative exp. of a WBS cost object

HI
I am looking for a soln to following issue.
1. In case of an Investment project under PS whether all the pre operative expenses and issue of project material to a WBS including turnkey items are going to be first debited to a cost element( part of P&L item) and then settled periodically to a CWIP.
2. If yes, then till the time you settle a WBS, the value of expenditure will appear in Profit and Loss Account of the company or Profit center.
3. Is there any way to book the pre operative exp. to a WBS as a Balance sheet item and then settle from there?
Regards
Nirmal

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