Order Settlement to another B area cost objects

Dear all
In my requirement We are carrying the work at one Business area on behalf of another business area. The maintenance order has some expenses amount,after completion of the job i need to settle into another business areas cost objects. But sap is giving the error only. Is ot possible?

Thenna,
Message to all: you really should get an OSS logon - its free and would save us all a lot of time...
However, this looks like a FICO issue... and here is the OSS Note text:
During settlement error message KD256 is output
"There are no accrued amounts; settlement is not possible".
The error message and the long text do not supply sufficient information on the causes for the error message.
Additional key words
CJ88, CJ8G, VA88, KO88, KO8G, CO88
Cause and prerequisites
Preconditions for message KD256 are:
1. The sender carries a results analysis key
and
2. it is
a) a sender with revenue
or
b) a production order with FUL rule to product which in the settlement period has neither the status DLV nor the status TECO
or
c) a WBS element which does not have the status TECO
or
d) an order, which in the settlement period has neither the status DLV nor the status TECO, and the indicator 'WIP on dependent orders' is in the results analysis version.
In these cases, only data from accrual calculation is settled. In the cases b) to d), no actual costs are settled to the receiver of the settlement rule.
The error message is now output
1. if no accrual calculation has been carried out,
or
2. the accrued data have already been settled
or
3. the flag 'Settlement to FI' has not been set in any of the results analysis versions
or
4. no posting rules have been defined for any of the results analysis categories.
Solution
1. Check for the cases b), c) and d) whether the sender already had the status GLV or TECO in the settlement period, that is, whether the delivery date or the date of the technical closure is prior to the posting date of the settlement. If this is not the case, the system continues to determine and settle in period WIP.
Note: Prior to Release 4.0, the system did not update the date of the technical closure with WBS elements. This is why the date of the technical closure was not checked in Release 3.0/3.1. This was an error in Release 3.0/3.1.
2. Check the settings in the Customizing of accrual calculation, that is, check the flags 'Settlement to FI' in the results analysis version and check the posting rules.
3. Check the previous settlements for the sender. For this use the function 'Extras -> Previous settlements' on the initial screen of the settlement.
4. If necessary, start accrual calculation for the sender again and start the settlement again afterwards.

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Dear all
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The below error is getting while settling orders into another Business area cost objects.
There are no accrued amounts; settlement is not possible.
Message no. KD256
Diagnosis
The sender has a results analysis key, but no accrued values.
Either the accrual was not yet started for the sender, or the values to be settled from the accrual equal zero.
Note
Actual costs are only settled once the sender is technically completed or finally delivered.
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o     Internal orders with no revenues
o     Orders with no revenues
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Procedure
1. If necessary, start the accrual calculation for the sender
2. Restart settlement

Internal order settle to another internal order

dear all,
for internal order group have 2 order,and i want to settle by hierachy:
A order settle to B order,then B order settle to GL account, how to config the settlement rule for
this 2 orders?
this purpose is to simulate PS WBS/activity if internal order can be collect cost then settle to a final GL acct..

maybe i have make more detail for my question:
a order group contain internal order A/B,and order B under A like follow structure:
order group
- order A
-- order B
order A have plan/actual revenue/cost
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the formula of POC = actual cost / plan cost * plan revenue
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Hi All,
While posting intercompany IR system thronging below error messageu2026
Enter only one true account assignment
Message no. KI249
Diagnosis
You made assignments to several objects in CO (cost center, order, project etc.). 2 of these have been created as true objects.
System Response
You are allowed only one account assignment for each cost-relevant account.
What we found in our system:
Conflict: Actual Sales Order 3487909 is linked to PO via account assignment category 4& IC dummy sales order (OKB9 config Business area 3000 + order 807898 assigned.
Due Two cost objects cannot be linked to one IR G/L account booking.
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Regards,
Adi

Hi All,
we facing an issue with sales order cost objective vs OKB9 cost object.
For IC PO service material, we assigned account assignment category 4.Reasonis Service material was not showing on G\R account.
The G\L account 7898788, we assigned to Service Item (material type DIEN) , for G\Cost 7898788 cost element is assigned in OKB9. Combination business + order 3478787.
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Enter only one true account assignment
Message no. KI249
Diagnosis
You made assignments to several objects in CO (cost center, order, project etc.). 2 of these have been created as true objects.
System Response
You are allowed only one account assignment for each cost-relevant account
How to resolve this issue.. Do I make any config changes in the system to overcome this issue?
Or any sub account to assinment in VKOA config for internal orderu2026
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Adi

Process order settlement to cost center

Hi,
We have a requirement to settle only the quantity to material and the costs to
cost center from the process orders. This is to ensure the materials are
handled as non-valuated and the COGM is computed from the goods consumption
postings.
The process orders will have both co products and by products as well.
There is also one more requirement to allow Purchase orders against the non-
valuated materials.
I am planning to propose the following :-
1) To make the materials valuated but set the standard price to zero to give
the effect of non-valuated materials and at the same time can also raise
purchase orders because otherwise non-valuated materials cannot be used to
raise Purchase orders.
2) When goods receipt happens from the process order the actual costs of the
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price of the FG is zero and only the quantity will be received into inventory.
3) When process order settlement happens the full actual costs will be settled
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account.
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Edited by: FICO Consultant on Feb 21, 2012 4:28 AM

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Production order settlement - Make to order scenario

hi experts.
i'm getting Error message . while doing settlement in ko88 (processing type - Automatic)
Define a settlement cost element for receiver type SDI
Message no. KD506
Diagnosis
In allocation structure A1 (controlling area P001), you did not define which cost element should be used when settling costs/revenues of the sender. Nor did you define receiver type SDI.
Procedure
Assign a different allocation structure to the settlement sender (-> Master data -> Settlement rule -> Go to -> Settlement parameters), or maintain allocation structure A1.
if i need to create cost element means, under wat category, i have to create
where i should assign this???
give me some solution ???/
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Hi Prakash,
You create a Settlement Profile and assign allocation structure to it. settlement profile contain the default cost object and other allowed cost objects to which the cost can be settled.
Now how system does the settlement to the respective object is based on the parameters defined in allocation structure.
The allocation structure contains:
1. Source of costs (as u mentioned in various headings like personal, admin cost etc)
2. You need to define there the details of the source of the cost (means the cost elements from which the cost is captured)
3. there itself you need to define how those costs need to be settled. whether by secondary cost element or by original cost elements
4. Once you define, then you are good to go with the settlement
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Best Regards
Surya

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Cost Center
Internal Order
Production/Process Order
Sales Order
WBS Element
The reason I ask is that we have an "RV" doc type that posts to Primary Cost Elements. In the line item detail there is a material #, Profit Center and a profit segment number from COPA. I'm trying to figure out which one of those numbers is being recognized as the cost object.
Thanks in advance for your help,
Moderator: Please, consult help.sap.com

Hi
Your list of CO objects is almost complete
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Assign cost object by condition type for accounting

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Material 123456
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ZZ01                      480000                  999999 - service order
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We have the multiple GLs getting assigned, it is just the cost object on the RV document that is a problem. Is there a way to do this in config...or is a user exit the only option?
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How settlement rule will be created for Sales order with cost object

Dear Experts,
We are using product cost by sales order with valuated stock. In addition we are not using COPA
We also consume some materials at sales order level and at the end of month we want to do the result analysis and settlement for the same amount. In this case can any on explain how system will behave regarding settlement of sales order cost and what entries will get pass in the system.
In our case we have done below activities...
we have created sales order,
All production order activities completed till final GRN including month end activities
Material consumption against sales order
Result analysis executed
At the time of sales order settlement, system throwing error (Sender doesn't have valid receiver, please create settlement rule for sender object)
Then i checked in sales order there sales order settlement rule not defined.
I guess this settlement rule need be generated by system automatically. If not, please let me know the process of it.

HI kishore
the reason is that sale order always carry the revenue and production order and production period carry the cost .
cost you can settle to the Material and even management want to be settle the cost to material only in production order OR period
but in sales order when u sell the product it carry the revenue not the cost and management want see and analysis based on profitability segment are profit center level .
Prerequisites
If CO-PA is active, the system generates a settlement rule when you create the sales order. The settlement rule determines whether data is settled to other objects or other areas in Controlling. In accordance with this settlement rule, the relevant data is settled to CO-PA.
If CO-PA is not active, create a settlement rule. This settlement rule that you create manually normally contains a G/L account as a receiver (such as 399999). You can also settle costs and revenues or results analysis data to objects with revenue.
You can also settle the cost of sales calculated in results analysis to a fixed asset or a cost center. To do this, you must add to the allocation structure the results analysis cost elements under which the cost of sales is updated to the order.
The settlement rule includes a distribution rule for the sales order item. The distribution rule is made up of a settlement receiver, a settlement share, and a settlement type:
The settlement receiver (such as profitability segment or G/L account) specifies the object to which the actual costs and revenue of the sales order item are settled. The settlement receiver can be proposed through the settlement profile.
The settlement share defines the percentage or the equivalence numbers used to distribute the costs to the individual settlement receivers. The settlement share for sales order items is usually 100%. A settlement share of 100% is preset in the system.
The settlement type specifies full settlement of the sales order item. This ensures that all the data on the sales order is available for results analysis.
Settlement still takes place in each period. The revenues and the cost of sales are transferred to CO-PA by period, and the work in process and the reserves are transferred to FI.

Product cost by order - settlement with distribution rule

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     While doing the settlment, the system posts only varinance cost to the object , if we have only one receiver object. but if we have two receiver objects apportioning the variance cost 50% to each of the object (one is Mat and another is ORD category)
. in this case , the system divides the total actual cost to each of the receiver and it posts the variance cost only to the materials. below are the example
Material -- Mat A              and service Order : Serv X
if the variance cost is 100
1. if the setttlment rule is -- 100% to Mat A, then it posts the variance cost 100 to Mat A
2. if the setttlment rule is -- 100% to Serv X, then it posts the variance cost 100 to Serv X.
3. if the setttlment rule is - 50% to Mat A and 50% to Serv X, then it transfers the total actual cost and variance cost as below
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Expected result (only variable cost has to be apportioned and posted like below)
     Mat A    50
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Expecting your valuable suggesstions and guideline at the earliest
Thanks

Hi,
I understand that the Production Order is stats DLV as you are calculating the Variances.
In cases where no Cost Estimate updated for the Material before the Goods Receipt, Target costs are not calculated during the variance analysis.
This reslts in updating the entire actual cost as Variance and will be transferred to the Settlement receivers based on the Settlement Rule during the settlement.
Regards
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Actual cost of Production Order settled to Fixed Assets

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My client is doing in-house production of moulds (internal order suggestion is not accepted by the client) for which
they have the following
1. BOM
2. Machine hour
3. labour
4. overhead etc
5.plan value
6. actual value
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If yes
what are process kindly give me if any process other then the below
1.production order created
2. settlement profile - FA is settlement optional
3. allocation structure
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5 define asset in settlement rule
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regards
elango

Hi,
Although i am not CO expert , please check with your FICO consultant who are expert before make the final call.
During settlement to a G/L account or a fixed asset, the system ignores additional account assignments that were manually specified in the distribution rule.
Based on what i know .
you can stipulate that settlement may be made to cost centers and orders, but not to fixed assets.
The Settlement profile is something that you need to create a settlement rule to settle the actual costs of a sender object.
About the Settlement rule is something that contains the distribution rules for the sender. It will define how the way to settle the cost.
Allocation Structure
In the settlement structure you combine the primary and secondary cost elements into groups, in which debits are then posted to the sender objects. For each group, you specify whether (for settlement to a given receiver type) settlement is performed
by cost element or using a settlement cost element.
For example, you might use settlement cost elements:
To document the purpose of an order (such as, repairs or maintenance)
To reduce data volumes (you can combine a number of debit cost elements
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CCS Details are not getting updated to COPA in Sales Order Settlement(VA88)

Dear Experts,
Our scenario is MTO with valuated material.
1. Production order is tagged to Sales Order.
2. Production order is settled to Material and variance is getting posted to COPA.
3. At the time of Delivery, COGS Debit (Cost Object- Sales Order), Credit - Inventory.
4. At the time of Billing, Accounting Document is getting generated, COPA document is not getting generated.
5. We are not executing WIP. (as per Business process)
6. Settlement is done thru transaction code VA88. COPA Document is getting generated.
I am facing the following issues in the above MTO process.
1. At time of sales order settlement thru VA88, In COPA, only COGS is getting as updated with one value field i.e. Material Cost. Cost Component data (Material Depreciation, Labor etc..) is not getting updated to COPA.
2. When I settle the Sales Order thru VA88, Billing Quantity is not getting updated to COPA though Quantity field mapping is done properly.
Please help me how to resolve the above issues.
Note: Same Cost Component Structure, we are using for Make to Stock scenario. Cost Component Data is getting updated Properly to COPA (at the time of Billing)
Regards,
vgl
Edited by: vglokam on Aug 31, 2010 10:52 AM
Edited by: vglokam on Aug 31, 2010 10:54 AM

Hi
1. CCS (Cost Comp Split) wont be updated to COPA if you settle via sale order.. In sale order, COGS cost element is posted.. the same will get settled to COPA as one single value...
In MTS, the CCS gets updated to COPA upon billing because of the "valuation" strategy customization... Billing posts to COPA in that case, COPA gets Sales Qty and it is valuated with CCS to give you the break up.. But, in your case, Billing is not posting to COPA, but to sales order.. hence, there is no qty flow into COPA upon billing.. thats why you dont get CCS for MTO
2. The sales qty should be updated to COPA upon VA88.. For this, make the following settings in your PA transfer structure which is used during VA88
1. Go to KEI1, Select your PA transfer structure...
2. Add an assignment line in it... Check on "Qty Billed/Delivered" in the assignment line
3. In the Tab "Value Field" below "source", assign Qty Field
Now when you settle, it should update qty as well
regards
Ajay M

Movement 543 F always take sales order as cost object

Dear sap expert,
I run MTO scenario.
In one of my step before a product become finish good, the semi finish good need to sent to subcon vendor (the material need another process outside company production line).
The good issue journal is happen when we good receipt finish good from vendor.(FI team make it that way).
When posting good issue, MM use movement type 543 F.
The GL number for issuing material is 300196.
The problem is , movement type 543 F always take sales order as cost object even though I already delete the sales order when good issue to subcon vendor using tcode MIGO (good issue to vendor).
And I already settiing PA tranf structure of the GL account to a value field and also already setting OKB9 so the GL can automatically post to profi segment (COPA).
MM team also already set default setting layout 543 F for sales order as SUPPRESS.
But, still when run MIGO, the system still take sales order as cost object not to COPA (profit segment).
But, if i use 543 E with same dafault setting layout as 543 F, it works (the GL is post to COPA not sales order).
How can this happen?
What should I do to make the GL post to COPA not sales order when using movement type 543 F?
Please kindly help.

Hi Anu
If you are in MTO scenario and your sales order is defined as a cost object, then the system behaviour is correct..
Check if the following settings apply in your case...
1. Go to sale order, procurement tab
2. Check whats the req type
3. Go to OVZH and check whats the req class assigned to this req type
4. Go to OVZG and check whats the acount assignment cateory in req class
5. The account assignment catg would be having consumption posting field as E
Regards
Ajay M

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I'm testing WBS settlement to G/L account which is cost element. I made some substitution rules because I met an error message saying that "Cost Object is needed"
As a result I can settle WBS to cost elements such as COGS etc. I got a FI document, CO document and PCA document. Everything looked so nice.
Suddenly I noticed, however, that there is no such a thing like cost object on FI document. When I look up the FI document using FB03, I found that the PS-POSID was empty. Of course, CO documents have Cost Object.
What I wonder is as follows
1. Is this standard? Is it natural that FI document with CO doc has no cost object on it?
2. If I need to use FI document to determine WBS element, what is the best to way? Is it possible to enter Cost Object such as wbs element in FI document during settlement?
Thank you for your kind advice in advance.
Message was edited by:
Namseok Kang

Kang,
In the message which you got, the word 'Cost Object' refered to a cost center, or order, or any other cost object.
However, there is another account assignment object with the name 'Cost Object', which was not filled in the FI document. That is normal.
Right now I don't have much information in the a/c assignment object 'Cost Object'.
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Vishal.

MTO Sales order is NOT a COST OBJECT

Hi All,
I'm working on MTO process and i have some question.i would like to clarify MTO process.
If we are using Valuated MTO process and Sales order is NOT a COST OBJECT
1.Are we going to run material cost estimate for MTO materials?
2.How can i configure or make Sales order is NOT a Cost Object?
3.If Saleso order is not a cost object,how production order process will work from controlling point of you?are we going calculate WIP on production order and WIP is settled to sales order or FI/PCA?
4.Once production order is complete,Goods Receipt will post to Inventory or Sales order stock?
5.Once production order is complete,we are going to calculate variance on production orders?
Any help is appreciated...
Thanks,
Anusha

Hi,
When the MTO is created from sales end it will create the Planned order then it will convert to Production or Process order.
Once the production do GR or confirm Produced QTY the stock will go to Sales stock not to inventory stock.From there the sales can do PGI to customer.once PGI has done the account entry for the customer account will take place automatically.
Once the production completed the Production order need to calculate for the variance & the Settlement need to be done for the production order against the Material which you produced & sale to customer.The difference & variane amount will post to Price difference & moved to Product cost of the material automatically & COPA entry will be done automatically.
The MTO Material need to run for the Cost estimate also.
The WIP can be calculated & difference can be posted against the production order & the material which you produce.
The Process is same as the Make TO Stock scenario.Only the difference is the Production will get generate automatically when the MTO order get created & the stock will post to sales stock automatically.Rest the CO part is same as MTS scenario.
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