Preflight - for specific ICC-profile in images

Hi there
This sort of has my head spinning.
Is it possible to do a pdf analysis to check that all images use a specific icc-profile(FOGRA27)?
I know it can be done in many different ways(Output Inspector for one) and by using the PDF fixup that converts to CMYK only.
But I cant seem to create a profile that targets that specific issue without applying fixups.
Basically I just want a list of images that are not in FOGRA27. Not a list of non-CMYK/Spot or similar. Can this be done in Acrobat 9?
I'm aware that ensuring can be done in many ways earlier on, but I need it to be done in Acrobat. Guess it has become a challenge now. :-)
I also need to figure out whether this can be done in the preflight in InDesign CS4.

martij17 wrote:
Hi folks
can I use custom ICC profiles in Lightroom 3? These are profiles from Ilford for their papers which i'm using.
Thanks
Yes.
On a Macintosh they should be placed at /Library/ColorSync/Profiles/ .

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Loading icc profiles for printing

HI,
I am very new to Macs. I have now overcome the problems with the new printer drivers and using them with Leopard. I am using an Epson R1800 printer and want to load specific paper profiles. I have downloaded several icc files and wanted to know how to install them.
Many Thanks In Advance
Colin

Not sure if this will help for other icc profiles, but the system's profiles are here;
/System/Library/ColorSync/Profiles

For archiving photos, should I save sRGB ICC profile?

Hi all.
I have started scanning old print photographs for archive.
I started a bunch of them, but now am pondering if whether or not I should save an ICC profile to the files.
Basically I'm scanning in the photos at 600 dpi, and saving them as TIFF with NO compression and set to IBM PC.
For the ICC profile option, it gives me sRGB IEC61966-2.1.
Do I need to tick that when saving, or will the colors look fine in future computers/applications?
I'm kinda confused on the ICC/sRGB matter even after reading about it. From what I understood it's only to display colors accurately for the Web.
How does ICC/sRGB factor into my archival project?
I'd greatly appreciate any feedback, tips and advice.
Thank you.

Yes, if you are archiving, save the document with it's profile.
You don't need to convert to any particular profile (which could lose details), just save with the profile of the document.
ICC defines a standard for describing document colors. Without that information, your document is just numbers without any known appearance. With a profile, the document numbers have an unambiguous interpretation as colors.
sRGB is just a profile that represents the average CRT as of 10+ years ago, and is sort of a standard average for web viewing on uncalibrated displays and web browsers that don't always obey profiles.

Best ICC profile/display setting for ThinkPad T430

Hello everyone,
Any recommendations for the ICC profile I can use with my ThinkPad? While I managed to get rid of the blue color cast to some point using color corrections within display driver and updating the monitor driver itself, I wonder if anyone can suggest some ICC profiles? I have a basic HD display (1366x786). I am occasionally into photo and video editing and while I know this display is not perfect for such tasks, I would like to get maximum out of it.
Cheers and thanks,
Srdjan
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How to Search Lightroom Library for Photos Using Specific Camera Profiles?

Photos processed using Lightroom 5.6 camera profiles for the Nikon D810 displayed posterized colors. A temporary workaround was published by Adobe, as described here:
Nikon D810 camera profiles display posterized colors
Lightroom 5.7 resolved the issue, but I still have a lot of photos that were processed with the "v2 beta" camera profiles provided by Adobe, and those profiles still remain on my computer. I'd like to find all the photos in my Library that were processed using a v2 beta camera profile, update them to the respective new 5.7 profiles, then remove the v2 beta profiles from my computer so they no longer show as options in the Lightroom Camera Calibration pane.
How can I search my Library to find all the photos that used one of the beta Camera Profiles?
Thanks.

The Data Explorer, DevMeta, and Any Filter plugins can search for specific camera profiles. (You can't do it with LR smart collections or filters.)

Using an ICC Profile

When using a specific ICC profile in the develop module and making adjustments toward a photo that I want to print, what do I need to do in the Develop Module to ensure that it is saved as a new image that is specific to only that ICC profile so that I can then select it in the print module to print? For example, after I've gone to View>Soft Proofing> etc....what do I need to do to make certain that all my changes/adjustments are saved?

Once you are happy with your settings and your proof, click the button (under the histogram) to save a proof copy. That will automatically create a virtual copy, next to your original in the library. In the information strip above the filmstrip it will have the profile name attached to the file name e.g. IMG_1234.dng/sRGB. It will also show on the thumbnail.

Photoshop Elements9 - ICC profile not installed"

When I try to print a picture I get the error message "ICC Profile not installed"and the printer shoots out a blank page. . I have confirmed that when the image is saved the ICC profile box is checked. I have tried changing the ICC profile via "image/colour management". I am using Dell desktop running Win 7 with 4GB RAM and a Konica Minolta Magicolor 2500W laser printer but have the same problem with my Lexmark X5460 inkjet. Can anyone assist me to solve this problem please

Thanks for the reply
The printer works well with my Serif Photoplus software and with other programs such as MS Word/Excel etc and has done for a couple of years
It is only since I downloaded the Photoshop Elements 9 trial that problems have started
I have checked out the web site you suggested but they only have ICC profiles for Epson and Canon inkjets.
I have checked the Konica-Minolta website but they do not seem to be of much help
I may have to reinstall the printer software or uninstall the Photoshop Elements.
Frankly I am not all that impressed with the black on black interface which gives me a headache and I find the Organiser difficult to work with anyway.
I will try again tomorrow and see if I can solve the problem. If not then I may well upgrade to Serif Photoplus X4 instead.
Regards
Martin

Elements 7 - Using Custoim ICC Profiles when Printing in Editor

I have downloaded some custom ICC profiles specific for some papers I use. They are there - I can select the profile printing from the organizer - Color Management>Print space - but they do not appear in the list of options if printing in Editor. Am I forced to print thru Organizer now?

>When you open the box in Editor>Print for the ICC profiles, the box doesn't scroll easily. You have to hold the left mouse button down as you scroll to see the entire list.
Try moving the Print window all the way to the left. If you have a small screen, move it further so that the left half of the Print window is off-screen. Then you should be able to see the scroll bar of the drop-down list of profiles.
This bug was identified in PSE 6, and I had thought it was fixed in PSE 7. But evidently not I was just able to reproduce it on my laptop.

My macbook pro was repaired and since then i can't get nor photoshop or bridge to initialize. a window appears that says it has initializing problems due to an icc profile issue.

my macbook pro was repaired and since then i can't get nor photoshop cs5 or bridge cs5 to initialize. a window appears that says it has initializing problems due to an icc profile issue.
there appear two error messages. the first one says that there has been a problem sincronizing because of a programme error. the second one appears after you clicked ok on the first window and says that photoshop couldn't be initialized because the icc profile is invalid.
does anyone know if i have to delete any system or photoshop preference? the illustrator is also having troubles. thanks

thanks! what finnally worked better was renaming the «settings» folder in te «color folder» in the library with ~before the name. now indesign is asking me for thw icc profiles but still works, so i asume i can reinstall color settings only for indesign and go on.

ICC profiles needed

Hi, I give up. I want to follow this procedure as found on the HP website:
HP Printers - Using ICC Profiles for Color Photos in Adobe Photoshop. However, after two days of searching I have been unable to locate the HP ICC profiles for my printer, paper and ink type, all HP products. They are not currently listed in the drop down profiles of step 3 in the above article. Some older deskjet models are all that are there. I am looking for the ICC profiles for:
Printer: HP Photosmart C6380
Paper: HP Premium Plus Photo Paper Soft Glossy Q5450A
Ink: HP Vivera Inks.
Does anyone have a link to where they are located? Thank you!!
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Creating Custom ICC Profiles for Color Photos
   1.
      Select File , then Print with Preview . (Photoshop 6 and prior: select File , then Print .)
   2.
      Select the Show More Options check box, and Color Management from the drop-down menu.
   3.
      In the Profile menu, select Same as Source .
The printer driver must also be configured to properly use custom profiles. Use the steps below to configure the printer driver.
   1.
      Select File , Print , and then Properties , Color .
   2.
      Select Managed by application from the Color management menu.
   3.
      Click on the Paper/Quality tab and select the appropriate paper type from the Type is menu.
   4. Click OK , and then OK again to print.
    NOTE:     The paper type must be selected in the printer software even when creating a profile. Maximum ink volume limits are determined by the paper-type selection, not through the ICC profile.
With these settings, a print without any color management intervention from either the printer driver or the application will be produced. This print is suitable for measurement and profile creation
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Using ICC Profiles for Color Photos in Adobe Photoshop
   1.
      Select File , then Print with Preview . (For Photoshop 6 and prior select File , and then Print ).
   2.
      For Photoshop 7 and CS, in the Print with Preview dialog, select the Show More Options checkbox, and Color Management from the menu.
   3.
      In the Profile menu, select the profile that corresponds to the printer, paper type, and ink set.
   4.
      Set the ICC rendering intent in the Intent menu. Most users will want to use the Perceptual intent to give the most subjectively pleasing color reproduction.
   5.
      Checking the Use Black Point Compensation box is also recommended.
The printer driver must also be configured to properly use the profile. Use the steps below to configure the printer driver.
   1.
      Select File , Print , and then Properties , Color .
   2.
      Select Managed by application from the Color management menu.
   3.
      Click on the Paper/Quality tab and select the appropriate paper type from the Type is menu.
   4. Click OK , and then OK again to print.
    NOTE:     If you select an ICC profile for your printer under Print with Preview in Adobe Photoshop that selection will be retained, even when later using the Photoshop Print or Print one Copy functions instead of Print with Preview . If you want to return to using the default sRGB mode after using ICC profiles, you must go back into the Print with Preview menu and select either sRGB or Same as Source as your printer profile. If the profile setting in Photoshop is not consistent with the printer driver settings, wrong colors will result.
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Monitor ICC Profiles

Greetings Adobe People!
I've been working with Photoshop since version 6.0, I know people quite often use that as bragging rights and I guess, that's what I'm doing, please forgive mefor doing so. Just trying to state in some term that I think I'm somewhat wise in a few of the ways of :Photoshop. I've read a few books here and there about what I should do for monitor ICC Profiles, I have a Gretag Macbeth, Eye-One Display 2 and I use it to calibrate my laptop and desktop monitor every couple of weeks. I stumbled upon an old picture I had made for some friends in CS2 I believe, a few years back, when I didn't have my Gretag and I was *GASP* calibrating my monitor using Adobe Gamma! When I load the psd file the colors are vibrant and stunning, when I load the associated jpg the colors are dull and extremely muted. Now I'm using Adobe RGB 1998, we could go on all day about sRGB and Adobe RGB and the slew of others that are out there, but at the end of the day it's really just personal preference, much like football fans or people who bicker over why X sports car is better than Y road car, what I'm asking is just keep it to your self if you don't mind doing so. If I select the most recent of my monitor profiles the colors return to there natural glory in both the jpg and the psd file, but I've heard for printing you need to have your RGB set to either sRGB or Adobe RGB 1998 and then print from your printer profile... When I do go to print I've got it down to a pretty good science of getting things done, so it doesn't take me too long to do it and I really don't pay too much attention anymore as to what I'm doing. I could go through the steps here, but I'm sure those that are familiar with it, know what I'm talking about. So all of this typing is leading to this, is it ok to just use my monitor profile for my main profile or should I stick with Adobe RGB 1998 and if I stick with Adobe RGB 1998, how can I get the muted colors to show up like they do in the psd file for the jpg file. Sorry for typing so much, and please take all the time you need to get back to me, I'm in no rush at all... Take care!
- Me

Keep using your EyeOne to calibrate, but don't use that monitor profile as a working space. That's not what it was designed for. Stick with the sRGB or Adobe RGB as your working space. As to your legacy file, this is where the Assign Profile can come into good use. Try using Assign Profile to find the working space that makes your old file looks its best. Then you can either leave it in that space or convert to your preferred working space. As to printing, it won't make a hell of a lot of difference whether you use Adobe RGB, sRGB or something else. It's more important that you've properly calibrated and that you are using a good (preferably custom) printer profile while printing.

ICC profile for images

I have a basic question about color profiles.
I set the color profile Adobe RGB (1998) for PS by default.
I work on images mostly and my question ist how to save JPG and other files, if with added ICC Adobe RGB (1998) or not?
For example:
My edited image will be published on the web. Has added color profile influence on displayed colors on the websites? Or will the computer screens display sRGB by default and the added color profile does not affect displayed colors?
And for lab should be Adobe RGB (1998) OK, but I should inform me by lab staff, is not it?
Thank you for explanation.

Yes, absolutely the color space influences web display - SOMETIMES. Internet Explorer ALWAYS assumes the color space is sRGB (the windows default for non-color-managed applications), while other browsers such as Safari will honor an embedded color profile. Thus an image tagged with a color space other than sRGB will be INCONSISTENT between different browsers, and inconsistent is not what you want.
Specifically, an Adobe RGB image will look dull and lifeless in Internet Explorer, with particularly muted reds.
Do you *know* why you want to use Adobe RGB in the first place?
If you're not sure, and if your primary output is web publishing, I might suggest setting your preferred working space to sRGB, as that is the one and only color profile that will yield the greatest consistency across all web browsers. Working with sRGB space, by default, gives you more chance of being correct if you happen to use File - Save As instead of File - Save For Web & Devices.
I also suggest checking the checkboxes that warn you if you're opening/pasting an image that isn't in your preferred color space. That helps prevent mistakes.
-Noel

A way to activate ICC profiles for all applied images

Hi there!
I think there should be an option in InDesign to activate the ICC profiles for all the applied images.
For those who work with PDF/X-4 and a Workflow-based Color Management, it's very important to take the images' profiles into account.
I tried and tried, but could not find a way to make it all at once in InDesign.
Today I have to change the color settings so the INDD's profiles won't match the Color Settings' one, and then open the INDD choosing "Activate All Profiles" on the "Profile mismatch" window.
It could have an option to choose to activate only the CMYK or RGB profiles and even choose what profiles to activate or not.
Who would agree with me?
Tiago Cheregati

First of all thanks for your help, Dov.
I may be wrong, but from the tests I made, the image's ICC profile is honored only if the InDesign Color Settings CMYK field is set to "Preserve Embedded Profiles".
If, at the moment that you place it, Color Settings are set to "Preserve Numbers (Ignore linked profiles), InDesign will "forget" the ICC, and won't send it to the PDF/X-4 even if you ask him to.
Now, I don't remember which is the default option for InDesign's Color Settings, but we receive a lot of .indd files (most of them books) whose images are profile-ignored. And then either we change it one-by-one or we assing another profile for the .indd, save, close, open it again and ask him to "re-enable" the profiles in the Profile Mismatch window. As I mentioned above.
So, in response to your question, I wanted InDesign to offer live control to these options, so I can send to the PDF what I really wanted in an easier way.
Again, I may be standing on a wrong supposition.
Of course our heads together will think better than one.
Best wishes,
Tiago Cheregati

Icc profiles / specifications for coloursync

Hi all,
I want to use icc profiles for exporting Quicktimes with the filters/coloursync option.
I've installed one in /library/coloursync/profiles/display, which shows up in the coloursync software.
Coloursync checked it and there was no problem.
BUT, it desn't show up in the quicktime export settings dialog under the filters/coloursync!
What's the problem? PCS is lab, Version is 2.3.0 --> can this be the problem, because
all other icc profiles I checked had PCS in xyz.
Here is a downloadlink for the profile: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7893244/Alexa_ASA800.icc
Thanks for your help!
Best regards
Gerhard

Hello,
That's not true. You can use a ICC profile in Finalcut via Effects/Filter/Colorsync.
There you can use ICC profiles in videoworld.
Also there is a tool, called "Alexicc" (http://www.lightillusion.com/alexicc.htm), which
allows to use icc profiles (converted from LUTs) to burn into videomaterial
(in this case prores 444, logC from ARRI Alexa camera)
I have also found a way to convert a LUT into an icc profile (see link above), but the
problem is, as I described, that the icc profile is recognized by the colorsync program
of MacOSX but is not in the list for the colorsync plugin in fcp. So I wanted to know
if there are any kind of problem with the specs of the profile.
Maybe you know the right specs or/and a program to convert icc profiles?
Best regards
Gerhard

Possible solution for problems printing with ICC profiles - esp. R2400

(N.B. This is long because I've decided to go in to details about the background of the problem etc.. Also note that whilst my experience is with the Epson R2400, anyone with problems printing using ICC profiles in Aperture may find this post helpful, as will be explained further down the post.)
Ok, here's the situation. I've been an Aperture user for over a year, and an R2400 owner for half a year. In that time I have done a huge amount of experimenting, but I've never managed to get Aperture to work perfectly with Epson's 'premium' R2400 ICC profiles - the ones you can download from their site which are better than the ones provided 'in the box'. This hasn't been too big a deal because, in fact, the R2400 does a rather good job just set to 'System Managed' in Aperture and 'Epson Vivid' with a gamma of 1.8 in the printer driver. Nevertheless, it really annoyed me that something that should work wasn't, which is why I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out what's going on. Having said that, I have come across a method which will give you pretty good prints out of your Epson R2400 using the premium profiles in Aperture - it's not perfect, but it's the best you're going to get if you want to use those profiles in Aperture. I understand the words 'it's not perfect' aren't what photography experts would probably want to hear, however, I have seen a few anguished posts from R2400 owners in here before, so I think some people may find it useful.
The whole reason why Aperture is hopeless at using the R2400's premium profiles is because - unusually - their default rendering intent is set to 'relative colorimetric' rather than 'perceptual'. You might say 'but that's good - it means you get more accurate colours!', and if you do, you're right... however, there's a snag. To get an image to reproduce well using Epson's premium profiles and relative colorimetric rendering, you really need to use black point compensation. This is where the trouble lies: Aperture's black point compensation is diabolical to the point of being unusable when used with relative colorimetric rendering - I feel I need to be awarded compensation every time I've ever tempted to use the setting. So because BPC in Aperture is unusable, that effectively makes the premium profiles unusable too, because Aperture always uses the default rendering intent specified in the profile.
The solution? Use perceptual rendering instead. Ok, so you can't change the rendering intent in Aperture, which makes that sound a tad difficult. However, as I said in the above paragraph, Aperture always obeys the default rendering intent specified in the profile... so you can see where we're going with this: we need to change the ICC profiles' default rendering intent from 'relative colorimetric' to 'perceptual'. I did some digging around and found one or two expensive pieces of software that could do that... but then I found that, lo and behold, the Mac OS has a command-line utility which can do the job for us, for precisely £0.00. It's called SIPS or 'Scriptable Image Processing System', and you can find out some information about it here: http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn/tn2035.html#TNTAG58 For those who don't like reading technical jargon however, here's what you need to do to convert a profile's rendering intent. First go to terminal, then type in the following command:
sips -s renderingIntent perceptual
Do not press 'enter' yet. Instead, add a space after 'perceptual', find the ICC profile you want to modify, and click and drag it into the terminal window. You should then find that your command looks something like this:
sips -s renderingIntent perceptual /Users/yourname/folder/RandomProfile.ICC
At which point you can then press 'enter', and the command will execute, giving you an ICC profile which will now make Aperture use perceptual rendering.
There is just one further thing to be aware of after doing this: for some crazy reason, you then need to turn on BPC in Aperture for the prints to come out as good as possible. Black point compensation shouldn't make any difference when using perceptual rendering as the idea of perceptual is that it takes account of things like that anyway, however, in Aperture BPC does make a difference, so remember to turn it on to get a half decent print. In general, I find that prints made using this setup come out pretty well; they almost perfectly match prints made using the profiles with a perceptual intent in Photoshop Elements, except for the fact that Aperture blocks up the shadows a bit more than Photoshop. However, if you can live with that, you might find this is quite a workable solution.
Now, I said near the beginning of this post that all the above can apply to other printers too. Most printer profiles have 'perceptual' set as their default rendering intent, in which case everything I've just said won't be of much help. However, If you are reading this because you're having problems with ICC profiles in Aperture, but you don't use an Epson R2400, find your problematic ICC profile, double-click on it, and take a look at the window that opens: specifically, at the 'Rendering Intent' the window mentions. If it doesn't say 'Perceptual' then it may well be worth trying the steps I've outlined in this post to set it to perceptual, to see if doing so produces an improvement when using the profile in Aperture.
Finally, just one note of caution: if you decide to try out the steps I've detailed above on a paid-for custom-made profile, please back your profile up before messing with it. I haven't experienced any problems when using SIPS to change a profile's rendering intent, but I obviously can't guarantee that it won't do something weird and corrupt your expensive custom-made profile.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask, although (contrary to any impression I may give) I am not a colour-management expert; I'm just someone who doesn't give up when they have a problem that should be solvable.
Thomas
Mac Pro 2.0GHz with 30" ACD; 15" MacBook Pro 2.0GHz Mac OS X (10.4.10)

Thomas
Wow - thanks for such a comprehensive post.
I have Aperture and a 2400 so this information is exceptionally useful to me.
Again - thanks for caring and sharing
Brian

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