Problem in third party sales scenario

Hi all,
When i'm creating sales order for third party i'm not getting purchase requistion number and when i'm enter third party in sales order system displaying message like " Puchase requistion can only be created for items assigned to plant. Please solve my issue.
Thanks and regards
Keshav

Hi
In standard SAP, item category TAS is used for this. The schedule line category is CS. Here you can see a field 'order type' with value 'NB'. This triggers the automatic creation of the PR.
Plus in the material master also you need to do certain settings.
1) If you are always following a third party process for a material then you have to create the material using item category group BANS. The procurement type should be marked as external procurement (F) in MRP 2 view of the material master record.
2) If you are not always allowing third party order processing then you can create a material master record with item category group as NORM and the procurement type should be marked as (X) meaning both types of procurement (in house manufacturing and external procurement).
In the item category the billing relevance should be 'F'.
With Regards
baalakrushnan.da

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I have come across this error during execution of third party sale scenario.
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2. PR with reference to Sales order.
3. Purchase order with reference to PR.
4. Statistical GR with reference to PO.: COGS Dr. To GR/IR Clearing account Cr.
5. Sales Invoice: Customer Dr. To Sales Cr.
6. MIRO: GR/IR Clearing account Dr. To Vendor Cr.
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List of Sales Order:VA05
Purchase Order with reference to Purchase Requisition: ME21N
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Result Recording Work list:QE51N
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Is it possible to create third party sales scenario for Service. If it is possible Please up date me the configuration process.
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Hi Banu,
Please go through this link it will help you about third party process in SAP R/3
You need to create the service material with BANS itemctegory group.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/dd/560287545a11d1a7020000e829fd11/frameset.htm
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hi gurus
please anybody solve my doubt
in the third party sales scenario, the vendor delivers the goods to the customer and sends the delivery acknowledgement to the company.
by what configurations the delivery acknowledgement will automatically go to the company from vendor
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mahesh

When you do MIGO (Goods Receipt), it will trigger PGI automatically.
Vendor has to inform Us when they delivered to our Customer. This could be done via Proof of Delivery (POD).
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In third party sales, when we create a SO it automatically creates a Purchase requisition. It is a Account assigned Pr with acct assgt cat as "X".
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If it shud be the VAX G/L what could have gone wrong?
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Hi
Chk in Configuration
Spro > materials mmgnt > Purchasing > acc Assignment > acc assignment category > Go to X > see details > Chk the acccount modifications >
If nothing is there put VAX
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Problem in third party sales

HI ALL
CAN ANY ONE GIVE ON THE BRIEF INTRODUCTION ON THIRD PARTY ORDER / INDIVIDUAL PURCHASE ORDER.
PLS GIVE ME REPLY ASAP.......
REGARDS
RAO

THIRD PARTY SCENARIO
in third-party order processing, your company does not deliver the items requested by a customer. Instead, you pass the order along to a third-party vendor who then ships the goods directly to the customer and bills you. A sales order may consist partly or wholly of third-party items. Occasionally, you may need to let a vendor deliver items you would normally deliver yourself.
Process Flow
the processing of third-party orders is controlled via material types. Material types define whether a material is produced only internally can be ordered only from third-party vendors, or whether both are possible. For example, a material that is defined as a trading good can only be ordered from a third-party vendor. However, if you manufacture your own finished products, you may also want, from time to time, to be able to order the same type of product from other vendors.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Sales
Third-party items can be created automatically by the system, depending on how your system is set. However, you can also change a standard item to a third-party item during sales processing manually.
Automatic third-party order processing:-
if a material is always delivered from one or more third-party vendors, you can specify in the material master that the material is a third-party item. During subsequent sales order processing, the system automatically determines the appropriate item category for a third-party item: TAS. To specify a material as a third-party item, enter BANS in the Item category group field in the Sales 2 screen of the material master record.
Manual third-party order processing
In the case of a material that you normally deliver yourself but occasionally need to order from a third-party vendor, you can overwrite the item category during sales order processing. For a material that you normally deliver yourself, you specify the item category group NORM in the material master.
If, as an exception, you use a third-party material, change the entry TAN to TAS in the ItCa field when processing the sales document. The item is then processed as third-party item.
If address data for the ship-to party is changed in the sales order in third-party business transactions, the changed data will automatically be passed on to purchase requisition and also to the purchase order ,if one already exists. In the purchase order, you can display the address data for the ship-to party in the attributes for the item.
You can only change the address data for the ship-to party in the sales order for third-party business transactions, and not in the purchase order.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Purchasing
when you save a sales order that contains one or more third-party items, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition in Purchasing. Each third-party item in a sales order automatically generates a corresponding purchase requisition item. During creation of the requisition, the system automatically determines a vendor for each requisition item. If a sales order item has more than one schedule line, the system creates a purchase requisition item for each schedule line.
Purchase orders are created from purchase requisitions in the usual way. For more information about creating purchase orders, see the Purchasing documentation. During creation of the purchase order, the system automatically copies the delivery address of your customer from the corresponding sales order. In a sales order, you can enter purchase order texts for each third-party item. When you create the corresponding purchase order, the texts are automatically copied into the purchase order. The number of the purchase order appears in the document flow information of the sales order.
All changes made in the purchase order are automatically made in the sales order as well. For example, if the vendor confirms quantities and delivery dates different from those you request and enters them in the purchase order, the revised data is automatically copied into the sales order
you process third-party items by creating a normal sales order. In overview for the order, you can then overwrite the default item category (TAN in the standard system) with the special item category for third-party items: TAS
Billing Third-Party Orders
If relevance for billing indicator for the item category has been set to B (relevant for order-related billing on the basis of the order quantity) in Customizing, the system includes the order in the billing due list immediately. If, however, the indicator has been set to F (relevant to order-related billing on the basis of the invoice quantity), the system does not include the order in the billing due list until an invoice from the vendor has been received and processed by the purchasing department. In the standard system, item category TAS (third-party order processing) has been given billing-relevance indicator F.
In the first case, the third-party order is considered to be completely billed only when the invoiced quantity equals the order quantity of the sales order item. In the second case, each time a vendor invoice is received, a customer invoice is created for the quantity in the vendor invoice and the order is considered to be fully invoiced until the next vendor invoice is received.
If you have activated billing-relevance indicator F for item categories in Customizing, billing can refer to the goods receipt quantity instead of the incoming invoice quantity.
You can control whether the invoice receipt quantity or the quantity of goods received is relevant for billing in Customizing for copying control for billing at item level.
FOR YOUR PROCESS Individual Purchase Orders WELL GIVE THE RIGHT SOLUTION
Individual purchase orders are used when your customer orders goods from you that are not in stock and must be ordered from one or more external vendors.
Process Flow
During sales order entry, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition item. The purchasing department creates a purchase order based on the requisition and the vendor ships the goods directly to you (unlike third party order processing, where the vendor ships directly to your customer). You then ship the goods to your customer. While the goods are part of your inventory, you manage them as part of the sales order stock. Sales order stock consists of stock that is assigned to specific sales orders and cannot be used for other purposes.
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
Prerequisites for 3rd party sales,
Purchasing org,
purchasing group,
assign the Purchase org to company code
assign Purchase org to plant,
should not maintain the stock in material, it should be trading goods,
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing *--
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VA01
Order Type
Sales org, distr chnl, div
Enter
Sold to
PO #
Material
Quantity
Enter
Save
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VA01
Order Number
Goto Item Overview
Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
Key in the PR number
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
Key in the PR number
Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
Execute
Check the box next to the material
Assign Automatically button
Click on "Assignments" button
Click on "Process assignment"
The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
PO Number
DN Number
Batch tab , click on classification
Serial Numbers tab
Date of Production
Flag Item OK
Check, just in case
Post
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
Invoice Date
Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
Check the box
Click on "Copy"
Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
Amount
State the baseline date
Simulate & Post
Invoice Number
*Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
Go to "picking" tab
State the qty and save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
Enter
Go to edit -> Log
Save

Problem in Third Party Sales (W & W/0 Shipping Notification)

Hi Gurus,
When I am doing Third Party Scenario I am facing Problem in Understanding why there is no Outbound
Delivery takes place, Only because if I am taking Goods-In from MIGO against Sales Order, It means
my Stock is increased & after Goods Issue only I can deduct that stock,
If I wants to do Outbound Delivery is it Recommended or Not ?
Please Explain me,
I checked all Relevant massages but still confuse,
Regards,
Sai

Hi Sai,
I think there is some slight confusion here wrt 3rd party sales, in this process we are not actually delivering the goods to customers, that part is done on behalf of us by our vendor. Vendor directly sends the gooods order to customer does the outbound delivery and all from his system and sends us a corrosponding invoice (MIRO) for same.
On that MIRO vendor invoice we create a final customer invoice (VF01) and send it to customer for collecting the payment.
Although you are somehat right that once we do MIGO (goods are placed in storage> so stock should also increase first and should be reduced accordingly after doing PGI) but here since we are not making any physical delivery, there is no movement type, PGI from our side thus a aadition or reduction in stocks. MIGO stands here as 1 component of whole process.
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Third party sales scenario

Hi All,
We have received an order for 1000 qty. we can produce and deliver only 500, so we have a third party which will produce and deliver it directly to the customer.
I want to know how this process goes on in SAP. specifically if we deliver 500 qty with a delivery note, then how we will accomodate other 500 qty in delivery and how to bill it.
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Thanks and regards,
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Dear Danny
If u want total 1000 qty to be delivered together n billed at once.
In my opinion, u can very well do it by maintaining the Item Category TAB for Third Party Item.
So this will be an Individual Purchase Order scenario of Third Party.
Vendor will deliver goods to you n you can deliver those goods with your own goods, to customer.
Or otherwise, if you want your vendor to deliver goods directly to customer n you will deliver yours, in that case, two deliveries will take place but still u can create single Billing Invoice for both the deliveries.
In this case, u have to use Item Category TAS for third party item.
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If u want more details, check the link -
http://help.sap.com/bp_bl603/BL_IN/html/index.htm
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I have an issue with thrid party sales order processing
Step#1
My client runs the sales order for
Material Qty
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We are facing the problem in third party sales process.
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Message was edited by: Rajeev Gupta
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Hi Friends,
As per Std.SAP in third party Sales Scenario a PR will be automatically created when we save the SO & out of that we create a PO.
Now kindly provide clarifications for the below query's
1. When we create a PO with respect to this PR (Is taxes & excise applicable) ?
2. How we have to maintain this Third Party Material in J1ID inorder to determine the excise rates for Calculation?
3. As per this Scenario our Vendor will deliver the goods to our customer & we will do a Statistical GR which will post to the consumption & GR/IR clearing accounts. Now what will the impact in Excise side as our material in the PO is subjected to excise?
4. Do we take the Cenvat credit as in case of Raw materials??
Since I am not clear in the excise & taxes part of this Scenario. Please help me..
Regards,

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Example 1:
Sales from Plant 'A', material 'B' (manufactured product) to Customer 'XYZ'.
Customer XYZ orders material 'B', which is supplied from plant 'A', say quantity 1. Sale Base Value is Rs. 100/-, Basic Excise Duty 10%, Education Cess 2%, Higher Education Cess 1%, Vat 12.5%
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Sales from Plant 'A', material 'B' (Trading product) to Customer 'XYZ'.
Customer XYZ orders material 'B', which is supplied from plant 'A', say quantity 1. Sale Base Value is Rs. 120/-, Vat 12.5%
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Incase of Third Party, the scenario can be mapped with 2 possibilities (Check details as under):
http://help.sap.com/bp_blv1500/BL_India/index.htm
Path: Technical Info --> Building Blocks --> Country: India
J54: Third Party with Shipping Notification (MIGO required)
J55: Third Party without Shipping Notification (MIGO not required)
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