Process Chain Descheduling

Hi All.
Our system is pretty straight forward. Our loads are controlled by a metachain that in turn kicks off other process chains. Everything was running fine until all the sudden, some of the subchains stopped executing.
They show up red in the metachain log but when I look at their individual logs, there are no logs for the day. It's as if they were never touched by the metachain.
When I manually trigger the subchain, they execute correctly.
Better yet, it's not always the same set of chains that fail. Sometimes, it's just an AR chain. The next day AR and SL. Later in the week ECCS fails.
Obviously, it's rather annoying to have to go in every day and rerun part of the loads. Does anyone have an idea what might be going on?
Thanks,
Adam

Which support pack are you currently on. There are lot of program errors that were fixed recently with respect to metachains and subchains
1106363      Correction: Repeat is not reported      19.05.2008
1075876      Correction: Metachain is not set to active      15.02.2008
1094400      Correction: Logging missing if the status is unclear      15.10.2007
1063298      Correction: Incorrect status when you terminate subchain      11.06.2007
1031742      Corr.: Message not sent to metachain if error before AND      25.04.2007
1026907      Correction: Green instead of 'Terminated' in sub-subchain      28.03.2007
1025647      Correction: Execution user not used for trigger w/ subchains      28.03.2007
1007777      Correction: Process chain does not turn green after restart      11.12.2006
970410      Correction: No synchronous update to subchains      25.10.2006
893563      Correction: Deadlock on completion of a remote chain      30.01.2006
601519      Correction: Subchains are not confirmed      18.11.2004
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Regards, Uday pothireddy

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I have just modified the existing process chain with the new info package for loading into ODS and then delta update into the Info Cube.
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Its giving error as :
"InfoPackage ZPAK_49RJW545FSO2MB3NF1MIZ9NJ9 is
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Dear himanshu arora ,
Go and check whether the Info Package exist ,
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If your IP is not there please create it,
If tehre please check the all parameter associated with it.
Also go through these
Process Chain Errors
/people/mona.kapur/blog/2008/01/14/process-chain-errors
Process chain creation - step by step
/people/juergen.noe/blog/2008/01/11/process-chain-creation--step-by-step
Data Load errors and Process chains
/people/siegfried.szameitat/blog/2005/07/28/data-load-errors--basic-checks
/people/siegfried.szameitat/blog/2006/02/26/restarting-processchains
/people/siegfried.szameitat/blog/2006/02/26/restarting-processchains
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/19683495-0501-0010-4381-b31db6ece1e9
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/3507aa90-0201-0010-6891-d7df8c4722f7
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/8f/c08b3baaa59649e10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
ope the following links will give u a clear idea about process chains and clear ur doubts.
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/events/sap-teched-03/using%20process%20chains%20in%20sap%20business%20information%20warehouse
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/8f/c08b3baaa59649e10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/8da0cd90-0201-0010-2d9a-abab69f10045
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/19683495-0501-0010-4381-b31db6ece1e9
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/36693695-0501-0010-698a-a015c6aac9e1
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/9936e790-0201-0010-f185-89d0377639db
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/3507aa90-0201-0010-6891-d7df8c4722f7
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/263de690-0201-0010-bc9f-b65b3e7ba11c
/people/siegfried.szameitat/blog/2006/02/26/restarting-processchains
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/people/siegfried.szameitat/blog/2005/07/28/data-load-errors--basic-checks
/people/siegfried.szameitat/blog/2006/02/26/restarting-processchains
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