Production color monitors

What are the benefits of using a production color monitor?
Is my Apple Flat Panel LCD not good enough?

Yup, that you can do, that works for DV just fine. And at least you can see what it looks like on your TV so you can get an idea what your DVDs will look like. But if you really are thinking that you will get something onto broadcast television, when that time comes you will need to get a proper card and broadcast monitor. And learn how to color correct for broadcast (or hire someone to do it for you).
Shane

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Good color monitor for use with FCP

I'm looking for a color monitor that has dvi and S video inputs.

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Displays/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=e n&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-8277
Keep in mind this is a COMPUTER DISPLAY...not meant for critical monitoring of video. Meaning not to be used to judge the quality of video. Especially via S-Video. That's taking 720x480 and blowing it up to 1900x1200. Not pretty.
Trust me...I have the 2405...
Shane

Macbook Pro & Mini Dispalyport Does NOT Support 10 bit Color Monitors

I am extremely concerned regarding Apple's Mini Displayport. Mini Displayport has been out for a year now, and is the video out port with the maximum signal output on Macbook Pro's. Apple's Mini Displayport still does not offer the compatibility and performance, that is possible with the standard Displayport implantation on Windows.
Case in point two monitors from NEC and Eizo, the NEC PA214W and the Eizo CG223W:
http://www.eizo.com/global/products/coloredge/cg223w/index.html
http://www.necdisplay.com/Products/Product/?product=5a6621b9-e9c4-4f02-8542-e625 1364bf7c
All current Macbook Pro's with Mini Displayport are unable to support the 10 bit color that these monitors are capable of. This is unacceptable, and an example of Apple leading customers to believe that Mini Displayport, offers the same capabillities and performance as Displayport.
It is my understanding that on paper MBP's with the NVidia 9400/9600 are capable of outputting a 10 bit signal. They just do not at this point in time, unlike all PC notebooks with Displayport. Mini Displayport has been sold by Apple as being every bit as capable only smaller than Displayport. The truth is it is not.
Apple notebooks can not currently produce the same level of quality on these monitors as Windows notebooks with Displayport that have also been on the market for a year now.
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/newsarchive/19.htm#10-bitips

Displayport:
http://www.displayport.org/consumer/
http://www.displayport.org/consumer/?q=content/faq
"Performance for a display interface is really bandwidth. So Displayport offers up to 10.8 Gigabits per second. That bandwidth can be allocated for greater color depth (more colors per pixel, i.e.. 30 bit color monitors), it can be allocated to resolution, i.e.. WQXGA , or refresh rate."
Note: The bandwidth has increased to 21.6 Gbps with the announcement of Displayport v1.2.
It appears to me that aside from the top of the line (Windows PC) notebooks, that the only systems that will currently be able to achieve 30 bit color with these monitors are going to be desktop systems with Displayport/Mini Displayport and the necessary GPU and Operating System. This is an example of the difficulty in getting accurate information when it comes to what a system can and can not do. Rod correctly pointed out that I was mistaken in saying that "all" PC notebooks with Displayport are capable of achieving 10 bit per channel output, some do not. As BSteely, Lewis, and Rod have discussed Mini Displayport is not what is responsible for the fact that Macbook Pros can not currently output 10 bit per channel signal. Displayport exists and allows for this capability, and I stand by my opinion that currently Macbook Pros with Mini Displayport do not implement the full Displayport spec, in particular the ability to output 10 bit per channel signal to 30 bit color monitors. On the PC side it is the "workstation" class notebooks that have had and continue to have this capability. There may be others, but in reviewing Dell, HP, and Lenovo I am only finding it in the Precision, W series, and Elitebook models. The latest T Series Thinkpads with Quadro GPU's may work as well. At this point, I am not going to research each and every model to determine exactly which notebook models and configurations will work, except to say none of them are Macbook Pros. The lesson here should be get multiple confirmations regarding your system's configuration and your intentions in its use. I was mistaken in my understanding that the MBP 17 with Mini Displayport would support the Displayport spec as it relates to 30 bit color monitors. I have stated what I think is wrong about that, but that is the way it is for now. Apple is not the only company to hype a technology, only to offer a limited implementation of it. "Vista Capable" comes to mind.
http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/operatingsystems/showArticle.jhtml?a rticleID=212100567
This post will hopefully alert others to this limitation. To end on a positive note, in my experience the last six months with my Macbook Pro, Apple has demonstrated it can resolve issues quickly and effectively, and I have been extremely pleased to the extent that they have worked with me to address the few significant issues that have come up, including a system replacement in quick order. This may or may not be something they will be able to address with the current Macbook Pros or even the next generation. We will see.

HP Dream Color monitor settings?

Anyone using a Dream Color Monitor?
I am working on one- NOT as an external monitor- it is my computer screen only.
It was set to FULL and the image seemed too intense.
I changed colorspace to Rec709 and everything looks closer to what I have with my ACD at home.
Not a big deal- but I'm just curious what others have found with this monitor.

Just thinking about this monitor due to a thread responded to earlier in the day. I haven't run across anyone really using one yet. But, there is a lengthly thread on the Cow regarding this monitor and it's settings.
http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/223/7928
You may also be interested in the HP publications on this monitor with regards to the Macintosh os.
http://h20202.www2.hp.com/hpsub/downloads/LP2480zxwith_AppleMacsystems.pdf

Good 17-19" color monitor for under $200?

I'm looking for a decent color monitor -- in terms of color fidelity and contrast ratio -- for under $200, preferably $150 or less. Is that possible? My current monitor makes pictures appear too dark when editing, even with the brightness turned all the way up. When I edit photos to make them look good on the screen, they appear washed out elsewhere (i.e., on other screens or when printed).
I'm obviously not a pro looking for top of the line stuff -- just a decent 17-19 inch monitor for editing photos in Lightroom. Thanks.

While a better monitor is always, well.....better...I'm not sure that's going to solve your problem. The issue appears to be one of color management, particularly monitor calibration. I would strongly advize investing $25 and taking a one month membership at lynda.com. There you can check out some excellent video training on this subject (and many others).
My experience is that to get anywhere close to matching prints to what you see on screen, be prepared to spend a couple of hundred bucks on calibration software and hardware. I opened this can of worms a couple of years back and it took a while to get my head around the concepts of color spaces, gamuts, soft proofing, hardware profiles etc. etc. But it was worth it in the end. I'm certanly no expert, but I have a much clearer idea of what's going on with my prints color-wise. Screen-to-print is still not an absolutely perfect match (is anyone's?), but close enough for my purposes (weddings, events, portrait photography).
I looked into getting a better monitor, but my research tells me that if I'm paying much less that $1500, the result may not be much better than what I've got (an old View Sonic GS771, a snip at $20 !!).
Seriously, lynda.com, you can't go wrong. Best money I ever spent.

Color Monitor Effect

Hi,
I've coded many effects for Premiere over the years for use in my own films, and I thought some of them might be useful to others. I've put my first one up on-line. It is a "Color Monitor" that reveals the colors in an image independent of brightness. Viewing the colors in an image has many practical applications such as showing color casts due to white balance or mixed lighting, showing the subtle effects of color correction operations, showing chromatic aberration due to lenses, showing color noise levels, showing compression artifacts, showing improper decoding of chroma channels, etc.
If you would like to try it out, you can download it from
http://www.landrew.com/cgi/Via/Eval.pl?page=Article&article=Color+Monitor&path=/Video/Effe cts
It is free and doesn't contain any spyware or adware or anything else weird. I use lots of free software myself and this is just my way of contributing. If you find it useful or if it doesn't work on your machine for some reason, feel free to send me a note :)
Cheers,
Andrew Harrison

Take a look here: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/premierepro/cs/using/WSCB566F37-A8BA-4b43-8BD2-B6467AAE930E.ht ml
Here the appropriate quotation from the help:
Gang the Reference Monitor and Program Monitor
You can gang the Reference Monitor and the Program Monitor so that both always monitor the same frame.
Do one of the following:
In the Reference Monitor, click the Gang To Program Monitor button .
In the Reference Monitor’s panel menu, choose Gang To Program Monitor.
In the Program Monitor’s panel menu, choose Gang To Reference Monitor.
Both Monitors show the same frame. Moving the playhead in either the Reference Monitor, the Program Monitor, or the Timeline will move the playheads in the other two to the same frame.
Regards
Axel

Color monitor

I guess this is more of a hardware question, but resources on the net seem to be non existent when it comes to learning about monitors....
I am looking to purchase a more accurate color monitor that can be calibrated and used with my FCP setup, like the JVC TM-H150CGU, which is in my price range.
However, as my VTR I actually use small $500 digital camera (JVC GRD72) as I can't afford a real VTR.
My question is: is it pointless to buy a more accurate color monitor when my VTR is a consumer digital camera, or will the video signal from FCP still be transmitted to the monitor correctly.
I will be using S Video.
Thanks!

Semi-accurately. An S-Video connection is better than a composite (RCA) one, but really, for a true representation you will need to connect to the monitor via Component (RGB).
But...seeing that you are using a consumer camcorder as a deck, can I assume that you aren't doing heavy broadcast work that requires perfect colors? If so, then what you have in mind is fine.
Shane

Color / Monitor Calibration on 10.4.11

Hello !
I have always used Adobe RGB to visually calibrate my HP ev19w monitor. The colors seemed to be OK and the whites were always very "clean" as I have only been working with monochrome images + have Adobe RGB as the workspace setting for Photoshop CS2.
I have an Ati Mac edition 9600 graphics card and am running on OSX Tiger 10.4.11.
I have now purchased a printer which was bundled with a HP Colorimeter (aka : Eye One Display 2) + I have downloaded + installed the latest driver. I have had several attempts using the device to calibrate my monitor - I cannot seem to get "clean whites" they seem to have an off-white / yellowish cast ? ....
I am "totally clueless as to why" ? I cannot seem to get clean whites on my "calibrated monitor" !!!
Any kind advice and expertise would be most appreciated ...
Thank you in advance

If I calibrate my monitor...
You don't mention how you're doing that, and it makes a very big difference. If you mean the Calibrate function in the System Preferences, then it's a crap shoot. That function assumes your monitor is set to a 6500K white point and a 2.2 gamma, which is its starting point. That's the only way it has of even having a chance of guessing what you monitor looks like when you're done using Calibrate. And that's all it is, a guess. It can't account for how accurate your monitor presets are, the aging of the monitor colorants or drift. If color is critical, you must use a hardware/software solution to get a monitor profile that means anything.
...how do I then handle my digital photos when working w/ Photoshop.
It's up to you. What Photoshop does is open and convert your images (if necessary) to the working color space. It passes that information off to ColorSync, which then translates it to your monitor profile. So no matter what the working space is, the color you end up viewing is your monitor's color space. Here's where you have to decide what to do in Photoshop.
1) I use a wide gamut monitor, which LaCie says is 95% of Adobe RGB. According to a 3D profile mapping viewer I have, when I view one color space over the other, that's pretty accurate. I much prefer to use my monitor profile as my working RGB space. Then I absolutely know the color I'm viewing is not being clipped off. Everything is pulled into the color space I'm viewing. Why is this important? Say you shot something that was a very hot pink. That color may be in the range of Adobe RGB, but not your monitor. Your monitor space just clips that pink to the closest pink it can display. Now you get a new monitor with a better color range. That same image will look very saturated compared to your old monitor. And not just pinks, anything that Adobe RGB was carrying your old monitor couldn't display. People's faces may be glowing pinkish red, where they weren't before. Had you used your previous monitor's profile as your working space, it could be converted to the new monitor's space in Photoshop. The end result would be that you would hardly see any difference at all. I won't use a color space that my monitor can't represent. You're working blind in reference to color your viewing as opposed to what the file actually has in it.
2) Use a large color space such as Adobe RGB regardless of your monitor's ability to display it. Advantage? You're not throwing any color out that your camera captured. Personally, I don't care. The color I can view is already incredibly saturated. Far more than any printer or even photographic paper can reproduce. What I may lose isn't anything to lose sleep over. Disadvantage? Some of what you're seeing. The embedded profile is NOT what you're viewing. When you send to the printer, it's sending color data based on the working color space, not your monitor's space. How you've calibrated your monitor (white point, gamma, luminance, etc.) can result in the printed output being a little different to a lot.
So there's give and take. Use your monitor profile as your working space and give up some of the original camera data, or work in a color space that is converted to your monitor's space and hold the original color data.
I like what I see on the monitor but sometimes I hate what I see coming off my printer.
I'm not sure if you mean colors are actually visually off (like greens print much redder than what you're viewing), or colors are generally accurate, but some are very dull compared to the monitor.
If the former, an inaccurate monitor profile is the most likely cause. Though it can also be using the wrong printer profile for the paper being used. Even if you have the right printer profile, it's a profile based on the printer (even though it's the same model) they used to create it. Your printer's print head is likely not laying down ink in exactly the same manner (which is nothing unusual).
If the latter, there's just a lot of color in RGB that cannot in any way be reproduced by fixed hue colorants on paper. Generally, the more saturated, wowwy zowwy color on screen, the less likely you'll get that on any kind of paper.

Blending the past with ntsc color monitors..

An interesting adventure....
Trying to hook up an NTSC monitor for color correction to my iMac. It's a sony monitor and can be calibrated properly by turning off all the tubes, except for the blue during cal.
The only issue is that this is an older monitor, and I'd need to get a DVI to RGB or a
component (Y, R-Y, B-Y) for my computers video card output.
However I'm scared that my iMac9,1 may not be configured to use this sony monitor, I've heard of many stories where people get the minidisplay monitor adapters to VGA adapters but become frusterated because their computers were unable to hook up to the monitor in the first place.
So my question basically is....do I need to be concerned about an older sony monitor hooking up to my iMac?
Thanks so much, saving me here...
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An interesting adventure....
Trying to hook up an NTSC monitor for color correction to my iMac. It's a sony monitor and can be calibrated properly by turning off all the tubes, except for the blue during cal.
The only issue is that this is an older monitor, and I'd need to get a DVI to RGB or a
component (Y, R-Y, B-Y) for my computers video card output.
However I'm scared that my iMac9,1 may not be configured to use this sony monitor, I've heard of many stories where people get the minidisplay monitor adapters to VGA adapters but become frusterated because their computers were unable to hook up to the monitor in the first place.
So my question basically is....do I need to be concerned about an older sony monitor hooking up to my iMac?
Thanks so much, saving me here...
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Apple color monitor color problem

look at a picture of my monitor, what can do?

Looks like a graphics card issue. Either it doesn't have enough RAM, or is unsupported.
Besides, that monitor interface inside Color is completely inaccurate. It's only for reference. Color is designed to work with an IO device and send a signal out to a broadcast monitor or HDTV. If you graded by judging what you saw on that monitor (if it was working) you'd be way off...it'd look very different when you exported a master file.
The IO devices that work with iMacs are AJA and Decklink Thunderbolt models...only if your iMac has Thunderbolt. The only firewire devices are no longer made (and they were crazy expensive)

New Monitor Showing Different Colors - Monitor Profile?

Hi All, in need of some help. I got a new Acer monitor and I am having three issues. The first is when I open photoshop I ger the following error: "Monitor Profile ACER S232HL appears to be defective. Please return your monitor calibration softwear." Then it gives me two choices, to either "Ignore Profile" or "Use Anyway". I've tried both and they both make the images appear differently. What do I do? Thinking about following directions I found here: http://virtualmcube.com/hardware/how-fix-monitor-profile-appears-be-defective-photoshop-er ror-message
Number 2 is that when I open the same file in PS, LR, online and in the picture viewier, the colors all look different! HELP!
Number 3 is that my images in LR seem way over saturated.
When I first plugged in the monitor I was using HDMI and I was told that would be the best. When I ran into the above trouble it was reccmended to me that I use the DVI. The DVI did help to get richer blacks, but didn't help anything else.
And just for a control group, I plugged my old monitor back in and everything is fine, but I'd like to use my new one! HELP! Thank you

Canned monitor profiles are notoriously inaccurate or outright defective. Unless you want to go all the way and calibrate/profile with a third-party package, you're probably much better off just using sRGB, and that's what happens when you click "Ignore Profile".
It's the same solution in the link you posted, only more convoluted.
Number 2 is that when I open the same file in PS, LR, online and in the picture viewier, the colors all look different! HELP!
Number 3 is that my images in LR seem way over saturated.
Come back if you still see this with sRGB as the profile. In general Ps and Lr are both fully color managed and will use the full monitor profile for display. Most other applications are not, so this is not entirely unexpected in itself.
When I ran into the above trouble it was reccmended to me that I use the DVI.
Shouldn't matter. The two are fully compatible and the digital video signal is the same.

Production support monitoring

Can someone pls send me a list of SRM monitoring activities that are performed by production support team to my e-mail; arpita76 at gmail.com
i will award points.
thanks in advance,
arpita

when you have the role
SAP_BBP_STAL_ADMINISTRATOR
you can see application monitors of SRM
here you can see which diff business documents have gone in error
also you have monitoring tools like
SLG1 -application logs
SMQ1/SMQ2 - to check QRFC
ST22 - runtime error
SM21 - error logs
SM04 - sessions locked
RZ20 - expert monitors
If you have SUS and hence XI in place
need to monitor XML transmission
SXMB_MONI
BR
Dinesh

What is Novell's successor product manage & monitor servers?

Based on the inactivity in the group, I'm guessing there's another product
offering to manage & monitor servers?
If yes, can you guide to it. The ZCM 10 groups seem only for desktops.
Just wondering if Novell's no longer offering something to monitor servers.
Thanks,
Marc

Thanks. We presently use ZfD 7 and I'd like test out this ZSM. When we
upgrade to ZCM10 from ZfD 7 any compatibility problems with with ZSM M&M ?
Should we even consider implementing ZSM M&M? I mean is the writing on the
wall for it being discontinued or replaced?
Thanks again,
Marc
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Photoshop CS3 wrong colors, monitor profile issue

Hi, I have this problem, i formatted my pc, reinstalled everything, and when i started Ps, with ,me this error, showing white like purple, any suggestion?
http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pscs3nz5.jpg
Thanks.

Recalibrate your monitor. You can use Adobe Gamma if you have it, or try some free software like Quickgamma. Hardware calibrators are best and most accurate to keeping your monitor calibrated consistently, if you want to spend some money, but otherwise, software eyeball calibrators can fix your problem cheaply and easily.

Cross product Color Rendering Issue (probably not profiles)

I can't yet figure this scene out:
I use a grayscale tif file as a slide/theme background in Apple's Keynote. Since it's grayscale, it prints using only K ink from both Preview and when imported into an InDesign page.
Since the grayscale serves only as background, completed slides are of course full of color elements on top of the background. Trouble is when I print to my color laser the background area prints in CMYK (and as a further test, when I print to an inkjet the background area prints in RGB or RGBK). This "quatra-toning" massively shifts the variously shaded K background to very blue-ish. (the images is of a piece of slate stone).
This color shift persists no matter how I can figure to save the slides: using Keynotes export to save slides as jpgs, pngs, or tifs. It also persists when printing from screen captures (which I believe OS X saves as pngs by default). Yet *all* these formats show a nice grayscale slate background onscreen.
I guess there's some color rendering, or color management, or both issue. I'm no color management maven, but I have used Bridge to set a suite-wide colorspace, and have used Photoshop to change the export files' colorspace as needed.
What's the fix? TIA. Bart

Bart,
Why not try the Color Management forum: http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?14@@.eea5b31
Neil

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