Production order : Account Determination to COPA settlement

Hi
Can any one tell me that how accounts are determined for settling the porduction order i.e. amount settling for variances and standard settlement to COPA. I would appreciate replys with trxn codes.
Thanks
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Hi Friend,
In COPA, Characteristics and Value fields are important parametres.
In PA Transfer Structure, You will be maintaining the Source fields and value fields for variance and order settlement. T Code is KEI1. In this t code you would have defined PA transfer structure and that structure would have defined in following path
IMG > Controlling > Profitability Analysis > Flows of Actual Values > Order and Project Settlement > Assign PA Transfer Structure to Settlement Profile
Now see the settlement profile in which, such transfer structure would have defined.
The pre-requisite for all above thing is, you must maintain the cost element and you must assign it into OKB9 and tick the profitability segment. so due to that configuration, that elements will take the effect in COPA.
I hope you understood the basics.
Regards,
Jigar

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Production order system status after being settled

Hello,
I am currently in ECC 605 project. I remembered once production order is variance calculated and settled,new system status, VCAL , is set at production order. And sometimes the production order won't be set with status VCAL even though it's variance calcualted. Does anyone have any experience at ECC release 605? Is it normal that settled order doesn't possess VCAL status?
And another weird behavior is that production order can be settled without variance calculated. At earlier release, system will
pop up error message if I try to settle a production order which isn't variance calculated. Can anyone confirm if at release 605 it's normal system behavior that system won't block order settlement of production order which variance calculation isn't done yet?
B. Regards,
Nancy
Edited by: Nancy Lin on Jul 14, 2011 9:45 PM

Hi Rose,
Try out ..
STATUS_READ
http://www.sap-basis-abap.com/sappp016.htm
Re: Status of the Production Order
Re: Production order status
Hope it will solve ur problem
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ilesh 24x7

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When I am trying to settle some production orders, it is giving me an error "Moving average price for material is negative" and doesnot let me settle them. we have maintained our materials at MAP and settle our production order variances to material to adjust its MAP. In these orders, it is trying to settle negative value, which is greater than the total value of the stock of materials and if settled leaving some of the stock with negative value. does any body has this situation and what would be the solution for this ?
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MKR

Hi,
This is Pavan Fronm IBGroup Rajnandgaon.
To My Knowledge,
When U Settle the Production Order, the Diffence Between the Target cost and Actual cost(MAP) of Finished Material hits the Material Account of the finished goods.
Say Suppose,
Target cost (Production Cost) =   Cost of Raw material + consumable,   = 10
                                                Activity ( Labour, Power, etc)              =    5
                                                Overheads.                                        =    2
                                                                                17
Actual Cost is ur Finished Material (MAP). = 18
CASE 1:
Now the system calculate the difference as 17 - 18 = -1 Rs , it try to reduce from Material Cost,
Now in case if Material has the stock say 1 unit.
it will reduce the cost of material by 1 rs in Material Master.
If the Material has no stock , as we know the system try to reduce the cost from zero stock tends to
give us a message saying
MOVING AVERAGE PRICE OF MATERIAL IS NEGATIVE.
CASE 2:
If Target - Actual is say +1 RS it increases the material price to 1 Rupee, if stock is Zero , then 1 Rupee
hits the Price Difference
CASE 3: *STANDARD PRICE INDICATOR*
In case of Standard Price indicator Every thing beyone the Material Price , whether respect to negative
variance or positive variance hits the price difference.
So I request u to settle the order if u use MAP for Finished goods befor dispatch of finished good to calculate actual production cost for ur finished material..
We can Also use MR21 for price change if the stock has dispatched befor settlement, but it is not suggestable to my knowledge hence ur material wont carry actual production cost if that is thae case.
Please Correct if I m Wrong.
Regards
J .K .PAVAN KUMAR
SAP PP-PI Consultant
Edited by: PAVANIDLUR on Mar 30, 2009 9:05 PM
Edited by: PAVANIDLUR on Mar 30, 2009 9:09 PM
Edited by: PAVANIDLUR on Mar 30, 2009 9:11 PM

CO Production Order month end closing and settlement question

We are a utility without PP module. We use CO Production Order to accumulate costs of assembling components (parts and labor) into a material number that we receipt into inventory. We have questions about month end closing process and the settlement of these CO Production Orders when receipts are not complete or labor is not completely entered at month end.
Basically we need to know how other non-manufacturing companies handle the settlement process.

Hi,
The Month end Activities are as follows
Clearing the open items of vendor, customer
Clearing the suspense account regularly
All the Expenses Including the prepaid expenses have to be booked..
Intercompany Balances Should be Zero
Depreciation Run.
Recuring Entries.
Park documents to be posted(FBVO)
Accural and referal in any differneces.
GR/IR Clearing Transaction (Tcode-F.13)
Bank Reconciliation(Comparing the Company Books and Bank Statements)
Exchange rate to be updated
Revaluation of foreign currencyopen items(F.05)
Order Settlements.
Distribution Cycle
Assesment Cycle(KSU5)
Transfer the Inventory to Profit center(1KEH)
Match GL and PCA(KE5T)
MM period Close and Open (Tcode MMVP)
FI Period Open(Tcode OB52).
CO period Closing
Year End Process
All the Month end Activities should be Carried Out.
Balance Carried Forwarded to next year(F.16)
PCA Balance Carried Forward(2KES).
Carry forward the Vendor,Customer and Asset Balances
(Unless Dep is posted for all the months the assets can not be Closed)
Copy the No Ranges to new year
Open the Next year period(OB52)
I Hope this is Helpful,
Assign the Points.
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Padma

Settlement of Production order to multiple objects with settlement type PER

Hi All ,
We have a production order in which settlement profile says that , settlement to material is mandatory and settlement to cost center optional with u201C to be settled in full u201C
Default object type is MAT . In indicators portion we have 100% validation , % settlement , Equivalance numbers , amount settlement , variances to costing based COPA -all are selected .
In PP distribution rule , we have PP2 as default distribution rule   for the order type which means automatic generation of settlement rule for MTR 100% PER .
In settlement rule of the production order , We have Settlement to material PER 50 % & Settlement to Cost center 50% PER . Automatically generated settlement rule has been modified as above as per the requirement .
Although total % as per above is 100% ( Sum total of settlement to Material & Cost center ) , we are getting the error as
Settlement type PER: Total percentage in distribution rules <> 100%
Message no. KD562
Diagnosis
The distribution rule percentage total is 80,00 for settelement type PER.
·     Settlement type FUL:
The total of the distribution rule percentages must always be 100%.
Example:
1. Receiver cost center 4711   20%
2. Receiver cost center 4712   80%
                           Total 100%
·     Settlement type PER
You can use the settlement profile to stipulate whether the periodic settlement settles 100% of the costs, or whether less is allowed.
We can not change the settings of settlement profile for 100% validation & to be settled in full for business constrains .
Any idea , for the reason of the error , since the sum total % for settlement is 100% and possible solution ?
Thanks is advance for help
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Arnob

Hi,
As per SAP help only the following fixed characteristics can be used for target fields.
Customer number (CO-PA KNDNR)
Product number (CO-PA ARTNR)
Business area (CO-PA GSBER)
Profit center (CO-PA PRCTR)
Sales organization (CO-PA VKORG)
Distribution channel (CO-PA VTWEG)
Division (CO-PA SPART)
Plant (CO-PA WERKS)
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/7a/4c48c64a0111d1894c0000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
Even when i created a table look up with AUFK, in the target field i am not able to see COPA-KAUFN in the drop down.
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Account determination error at settlement of PCC

Dear All,
I have never got this error before. While running the settlement for product cost collectors through CO88, I got error message for 2 material codes. The error is F5611 "Account determination for product cost collector price difference with keys not defined in chart of accounts".
I have checked the SAP note 388457. Also I checked if there has been any goods receipts for these 2 materials in error for the period.
1 material has no documents posted (checked through MB51). However, one material has goods receipts done. This is an old material and there was no error while running the settlement in prior periods.
Kindly let me know what can be the reason for this error and what can be the remediation. The user is of the view that never this error has occured and why this error for only 1 material.
Kindly let me know.
Regards
SM

Hi,
I agree and suggested the same, but the user is right in asking the question why this error did not occur till now and also this error occured for only 1 material.
What can be the differentiating factor with this and other materials.
Regards.

GR against production order accounting entry

Looking for help regarding offset account hit at the time of GR of Finished production
Let see the entries
When GI Against production order for material code x000000091   by 261
6110010 CONSUMPTION - XXX     10,000.00 Dr.
3430020 Stock account    10,000.00- cr.
When GR of Finished good Concrete by 101
3450010 FINISHED GOODS 19,990.00 Dr.
6000010 Production offset 19,990.00- Cr.
just we want to know how does production offset be cleared, even it is showing in our trail Balance as Cr.
please help how does production offset works.

Hi,
Please consult your FI-Co consultant.
The setup in OBYC needs to be checked & corrected. The G/L account specified seems to be incorrect. The output from production should be credited to the Production Output account & not Production Offset account.
The entries should be:
Cr. Production Output A/c
Dr. Finished Goods
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Regards,
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No Accouting Documents are created while settlement run on Settlement Date
Could anyone provide me the Documents for the Configuring the Account Determination for the Subsequent Settlement.
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Kumar Rayudu

Hi
Plese refer the help.sap.com or the following link
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_02/helpdata/en/12/08595a470311d1894a0000e8323352/frameset.htm
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Sales Order - Account Determination Analysis

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In sales order creation we have a provision to see the account determination analysis may be even before invoice is created.
The path for this is: In th menu bar above:: Environment - Analysis - Account Determination
But in my case when I click on it, nothing appears than blank in the analysis screen
Can you please tell me if anything is remaining / needs to be activated to view this.
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Dhananjay

Just to be sure : Did you check that VBRP-AUGRU_AUFT is indeed filled in the invoice ?
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After production order settlement, where does the cost go?

Dear Experts,
I understand after we did the "order settlement" for production order, the cost will be settled to material manufactured from the said production order. Say, the total cost is $10,000 to produce 1000 units of finished goods (FG), then the cost settled to each individual FG at $10 each, am I right? Where can I see the settled cost in the material master?..
I checked in the cost center report, S_ALR_87013611, I can see the cost Credited from "production" cost center with a breakdown in settlement cost element such as machine hour, setup and personnel hour. I understand the other side of Debit was to the production order, and only after order settlement, I'm not sure which cost center will be Debited.
That would be the CO side, how about the FI, would there be any cost posted to the GL side after production order settlement to the material?
Please advise..
regards,
Abraham

Hi Abraham,
It's not the button i mentioned. I was just trying to take u to the accounting document from the settlement screen. well just drill down the settlement screen and u'll get it. No big deal.
But more important is the concept. I'll share my understanding here. (cost by production order)
Any value that flow into controlling module should have a cost object. Here production order is the cost object.
First u create a production order (cost object) for say 1 unit of X with a std price of Rs. 10
Std price comes frm material master as a result of std cost estimate
U start production - Raw materials are consumed - 2 qty x Rs.3.
Entry RM Consumption Dr Rs. 6    Inventory Cr Rs.6 (Prod order is debited with Rs.6)
Activity (Let's say machine hours - 3 Hrs x Rs.2) According to the routing it was 2 hrs but actual production took 3 hrs.
Entry - None - But production order is debited with Rs. 6.
When production is complete for 1 qty of X, entry flows
Finished Goods Dr Rs.10    Change in Stock Cr. Rs.10 (Production order is credited with Rs.100
Abraham, now visualise both sides of the production order. It will have debit of Rs.12 and credit of Rs.10.
Now accountant sees the production order and confirms the values are ok and puts the status of TECO to the order. which means the order is technically complete.
Now when u run the order settlement, this production order is picked up by the system (due to it's status). System sees difference between debit and credit of Rs 2.
So it cedits the production order with Rs. 2. Now both debit and credit of production order is equal (Rs.12)
Entry Price diff A/c Rs,2     Change is stock A/c Rs.2
Now this rs. 2 is settled to COPA. It does not flow to material.
Reason: in a std costing system materials are valued at standard cost and
Hope this helps. Do revert in case of doubts.
Best Regards
Vimal

To see the cost of production order after settlement to header material

hello guys,
   In make to stock,we settle the total cost of prodution order on header material,right(if we keep as the default rule( distribution rule in order type)?
     If i want to see that cost of production order which we settled against the header material,where should i check it?should i check in material account or somewhere else?
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Dear,
There is a little missunderstanding in your thought.
If the material of price control S, When you do the GR, the STD cost of material is deducted from production order cost, then when you settle the production order, the variance is settled to variance account/PD account. hence the production order cost balance is zero.
Example- Production order cost is 60000
After GR the production order cost balance is 60000-50000 = 10000.
After settlement production order cost balance is zero.
Now your question is where can i see the production order cost?
You can see the production order cost in the production order itself.
In the production order...cost disply option just filter the origin with test settlement and GR.
Then total up the cost, then you can see the cost as 60000.
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Variance in Production Order after settlement

Hi All,
We have few production orders in whihc has been settled, but now after settlement also there is a balance left in those production order.
The Status of these production orders is DLV. I have reversed its previous settlement now again tried to settled the Order. Aftter settlement it is taking the entry for WIP account and it is not effecting our Prod Var account.
Please help how to settle the order and any clue why system is still showing the balance.
Thanks!!!
Regards,
Vivek Srivastava

Hi Vivek
I think you are in Prod Cost By Period scenario i.e. Settlement Type in your Settlement rule is PER and not FUL
In the case of Product Cost By Period - Variance calculation is not dependant on Order Status
Since you are saying you have DLV status and yet going to WIP - This means you are in PER scenario
Your order will show the balance till the time you settle for all the periods in which the values have been posted to the prod Order
Press (CTRLSHIFTF11) to see the values posted in each period.. I think values have been posted in the next periods also and you have not executed settlement for those periods
Br, Ajay M
Edited by: Ajay Maheshwari on Feb 27, 2011 2:01 PM

Varaince settlement and costing sheet in REM and Production order

for REM, repetetive manufacturing, what's the difference between REM and production order in terms of variance settlement and settlement profile design? what's the difference between process order and production order in terms of variance settlement and settlement profile design?
for actual overhead(fixed and variable), can it be calculated automatically by costing sheet? user is very angry to input actual overhead by jounal entry. also how about plan scrap, how to define it in configuration? besides order confirmation, where can I input actual scrap?

For variances, there is no difference between the 3 diferrent orders. The settlement profile can also be the same. The real difference from a CO perspective concerns the calculation of WIP and the settlement rule. Process orders and production orders normally use a full settlement rule (though periodic settlement is also possible) and WIP is calculated based on actual cost. Repetitive orders only use periodic settlement and WIP is valued at target cost.
From an overhead perspective, there is no difference between the 3 types of orders. Overhead sheets are assigned through the costing variant and costs are applied through period-end process.
Plan scrap is maintained in master data, either in material master, routing (receipe for process orders), or bill of material. Acttual scrap usually happens based on the quantity of components issued to the order during confirmation or by the amount of scrap reported during confirmation. If you are backflushing components, as you normally would do for repetitive, then you can adjusted the consumed quantities by doing an additional goods issue to the order (movement type 261).
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Variant settlement required for selected Production Orders

Hi Experts
I am using KO88 for individual settlement of Production order
Using CO88 for collective settlement
Now I need to reverse selected orders. Is there perhaps a settlement like K08G (int order/PM)
It must be able to take a variant that I will download these Production orders?
Please help ASAP
Many thanks
Dawn

Dawn-
I know that there is no transaction code that you can use to reverse multiple production orders settlement. But, look at this program "RKO7CO88". This is the settlement program where you can plug in individual order numbers and it also has an option to select reverse settlement. I would test once in your test system before doing it in live system.
Hope this helps.
Shail
Edited by: shailender dhanasree on Nov 3, 2011 4:04 PM

Production Order settlement issue

Hi ,
We are planning to do re-work . We want to capture the labor activties for the order. Is it possible to settle the labor activties only for the order settlement ?
Thanks
Nic

Hi Nick,
From a business stand point you have two options to follow:
1. settle the costs to the original Production order
2. Settle the costs to seperate cost center
for both cases, you need to have seperate Production Order type. Because the settlement paratment are different from regular production order type.
So please use seperate Production order type with settlement profile being settlement to Cost Center.
Hope this will solve your issue
Best Regards
Surya

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