Profit center issue

Hi
one of our billing documnet has got cash pricing procedure assigned to it. Accordingly, when a billing document is created, certain G/L is getting debited instead of customer account. We are also crediting same G/L account thru VKOA settings. e.g.
Debit G/L 300000 $100
Credit G/L 300000 $100
G/L 300000 is created as a revenue cost element in CO.
Now the issue is,
Does revenue cost element requires assignment to CO object ? DO we need to give cost center in default settings ? If not then, I am getting error - G/L 300000 requires assignment in CO
If I give cost center in OKB9, only the first line item is getting cost center thereby not matching in Cost center accounting. How to get cost center in second line item. IN this case, profit center for these tw line items will also be different. First line item will get from default of the cost center in OKB9 and the second one gets from sales order.
If no cost center is required, then also, first line item does not get profit center assigned to it. On the other hand , second line item gets the same from sales order.
Can anyone help me in this regard ? Either both line items should get same cost center ? PC or if no cost center at all, then, same profit center in both line items
Regards
Raj

Hi
It dosen't help.
My question is if the same G/L is getting profit center in the second line item, then why cant in the first line item also ?
First line item is determined by cash pricing procedure. Second line item is determined by condition type in regular pricing procedure. SAme G/L is deterimined in both of these line items.
If I maintain defauld cost center for this G/L in OKB9, first line item takes that wih default profit center of that cost center. However second line item does notget any cost center but gets profit center from sales order
What I want is either it should take cost center as first line item or both line items shiould take profict center from sales order
Help
Raj

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