Profit centers

Hi Experts,
i have to track my account Branch wise and then Department wise ,how can i solve this problem through profit center?
e.g I have 3 branches like A,B,C and all three branch have some department like Sales,HR etc..
now i want to track all the expenses for those department branchwise ,what is the solution?
Regards

Define Dimensions like Branch and Department.
Open Profit Centres and Choose Branch and add A, B, C etc.,
Open Profit Centres and Choose Department and add Sales,HR etc.,
Check this ESS on Profit Centre for more information
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Hi Srinivas,
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Fixed Assets, AR/AP and WIP can be transferred into PCA at the monthend. PCA is a separate ledger, has its own set of tables and reports. Inventory and other balance sheet accounts are posted into PCA online.
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Edited by: Srinivas on Apr 7, 2008 3:42 PM

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In case one reposts primary costs to different cost centers which in turn has different profit centers, the PCA report gets updated since it is posted in CO.
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Repostings of data in profit centers

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any one can tell me can we report revenues between profit centers as we will done in the case of Cost Centers ( KB11N,KB61)?
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Message was edited by:
Karol W

Dear Karol,
Here the some infirmation is about Profit center related and cost center.hope this infirmation will helps you
You would need check the design of PCA and what the business wants to use PCA for. For example do you want to produce P&L Statements and or Balance Sheets by Profit centers etc.
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Hi, remove assignment in 3KEH,3KEI

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> Hello Murali,
>
> Thanks for your response. I really appreciate it. I
> had a follow up question. Will the client be able
> to run some sort of report or get a breakdown
> by CoCd of the amounts hitting the
> Profit centers? For example, the UK CoCd sold an
> accessory which will hit the Accessories Profit
> center that is common for both COCd's. Will the
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>
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> have to be created for each company code? So
> if I have and Accounting, Warehouse, etc cost centers
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> the UK COCd as well right?
> Thanks in advance!
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