Pseudo Delta

Hi Gurus,
I want to implement a function module extraction in CRM with psedo delta field as change date, but this field is a time stamp field and and even when i enabled selection option for this field, this is not coming in the infopackage selection in BW side.
I want to know Whether timestamp cannot be made as an infopackage selection field? or do we have to make some setting to replicate this in BW side?
Regards,
Raghavendra.

Hi,
What are the changes that i should make in the function module to make it delta enabled. i have used the standard function module rsax_biw_get_data_simple and modified it according to my needs.My delta field is change date which is a timestamp field.Is there no way to make timestamp field as selection field in infopackage?
Regards,
Raghavendra.

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could you please tell me
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regards

Hi Chaudary,
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Points = thanks,
Regards
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Hi,
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Thanks in Advance,
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Can any One Please Give Some SAP link/Documentation for Pseudo Delta .

Check these links:
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I have two questions:
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/27/42073e774a4329b6dd6bab21eef613/frameset.htm
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data fmonth type d.
case i_vnam.
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ENDCASE.

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Edited by: Christian Baum on Jul 27, 2010 12:15 PM

Hi Yuvaraaj,
thanks for taking the time to answer my question.
For time selection I use the extractors default datafields: BEGDA and ENDDA.
Pseudo-delta might be an option IF the two fields you mention are processed in the extractors selection logic. I actually don't know and would need to take a closer look on the extractors programm logic.
Anyway my goal is to stay as close to SAPs standard as possible.
Pittily the extractor does not support filtering by time in delta mode. (Found this on SAPs help pages and also tried to set start and enddate ... no luck as assumed.)
I had another look at [SAPs documentation for 0HR_PY_1_CE|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70ehp2/helpdata/en/6a/cccc6015484464b25605375a5db965/content.htm] and have to recall the statement above.
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Delta update is not available in FI-SL.
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