QAPP_CUST_IP_F4 - inspection point help

Two related questions here. I haven't set this FM up before.
One: the FM mention table T_TQ79_F4_VALUES. I can't find this table in our system. Should this table be there?
Two: The FM indicates that the table is index by the user field attribute which is a one character field. The problem I see is that if I have multiple inspection point identifiers. I.e. I create 901 and 902. In 901 I use the field number(size =3) as a shift number... 1, 2 or 3. But in 902 I use the same field as an employee ID number.. 213, 418, etc... How can I limit the help information for each IP identifier. The user would be clueless as to the IP identifier being used. For 901 I want the help to display "Enter the shift number that sample was taken on." For 902 I want to enter "Enter the employee number of the person that took the sample."
FF

Yes.. we saw the defined structure. But the module help specifically states to maintain the values in the table T_TQ79_F4_VALUES. The values are then read into the structure from the table.
We have already designed a Z-table should we need it. But we try not to use a Z-tables if SAP has a provided solution. We have submitted an OSS note to them on this.
I just wanted to see if it was just us that was missing the table, or if others were missing it. If it is missing, I'm wondering if any one has implemented this FM and if they all used Z-tables for storing their data or if SAP provided something. I searched OSS already to no avail.
In any case, SAP either needs to update their documentation for this process, or they need to provide the table that is mentioned. Seems pretty clear that there is an SAP disconnect here. I've pasted the help documentation from the SAP provided FM below.
FF
F4 - Help for the Inspection Point Fields
You can use this function module to specify input help (F4) for the user field for inspection point identification.
The function module serves as a copy model for user-defined programs. Note that the interface for user-defined programs must correspond to the interface for this function module.
You must enter values for the specified user field in the table T_TQ79_F4_VALUES to offer a list of values for the user. You can enter an explanatory short text for each value.
SAP determines the format for the possible values. This means that possible values are determined and exported based on the table.
For more information, see documentation on the individual parameters.

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1. Copy FM QAPP_CUST_IP_PROPOSAL and use this in your inspec. point identire conguration in the Default for user fields in results recording. You have to provide all the logic in the FM to identify the next serial number. You can also us a copy of the FM QAPP_CUST_IP_CHECK in the verification of user fields to check to make sure the serial number wasn't already specified in an earlier lot is the next in the series. Again, you have to put in the correct logic.
2. I think you are looking for the drop down list in this question. Use FM QAPP_CUST_IP_F4 for this. You can either develop a new new FM for each inspec point identifer you use, and hard code the values into the FM, or create a Z table that your FM references to look up the appropriate values for the insepction point and user field.
3. Same as number 2 above.
FF

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Hi,
I have used QAPP_CUST_IP_F4 function module to list F4 values in Inspection points and QAPP_CUST_IP_CHECK for validation of those user fields.
When configured for an inspection point, these modules are working fine when we use in QA32 and QE51n. But when we use QE71, the FM's does not getting called.
Is there any configuration needed to make them work in QE71?
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Sriram

Same kind of issue we have faced in one of my implementation ie when we used to do the RR through QA32 system allows us to show the F4 which is assigned for that inspection point. But same F4 help was not working during rr through QE71.
For this issue we haven't applied any note by debugging in QE71 fixing call function he done some changes in the assigned FM
after that its appered in QE71 100% it will flow in QE71 also without NOTE.
Check with abaper
Link: QE71 - verifiying user fields and providing lists of values

Setting up inspection point in a scenario require more than one inspection

Hi all,
Maybe I am still not very clear on the PP-QM conceptu2026 hope you can see my problem on the following questionu2026..
According to SAP in the QM-production environment, we key in ONE inspection point in the task list header level (i.e. either the master recipe, routing, or rate of routing).
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u2022     Time-based intervals (for example, an inspection point every hour or for each work shift)
u2022     Quantity-based intervals (for example, an inspection point for each container)
u2022     Freely-defined intervals (for example, an inspection point each time a tool change occurs)
Since each of the above scenarios require more than one inspection points to be created and to be assigned to the task list header.
Thus, how to accomplish multiple inspection point assignment when the task-list header only allow me to assign one inspection point at a time?
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YY

Hi guys,
Thanks. However, in the SAP help portal it does said the system allows several inspection points to be assigned to an inspection operation whether it is in routing or recipe.
Therefore, does it means I can assign more than one inspection points in the operation detail level for either recipe or routing if I will to click the u201CNo relationu201D radio button in the u201CQuality Management: Inspection Pointu201D section. (i.e. is this is the right place to allows this assignment)?
For example, on the change master recipe screen at the Operation tab, I highlight one line item (i.e. one operation line item and zoom into this operation line item, I donu2019t see any field box that allow me to assign several inspection points to an operation? Instead, on the u201CQuality Management: Inspection Pointu201D section, there are the following fields appear:
- Insp.pointCompletion dropdown box
- 4 radio buttons on the inspection interval (ie. Time-related, Qty-related, No-relation) and its subseq time and quantity value input box.
- Quan.pt. lot checkbox
- Last Part Lot Assgmt checkbox
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Inspection point in SAP QM

Dear Sir
My query is related to SAP-QM
1,How to define INSPECTION POINT in Inspection planning?
2.Where is default setting of Inspection point like at Plant level & material level?
3. If inspection point of material is changed in Tasklist and a new inspection lot is generated then it again reflect both the Inspection point (the new one & the old one).So how to aviod this problem so that it shows only the new inspection pont at the time of Result recoding.

Hello Alpana,
question 1 How to define INSPECTION POINT in Inspection planning?
In the transaction QP01 or QP02 you can define an inspection point at header level.
This can also be done for production plans and process instructions.
The inspection point definition is done in the customizing of the Quality planning.
question 2 Where is default setting of Inspection point like at Plant level
This can be found under the customizing point Basic settings in QM.
Using the settings at plant level it is possible to define inspection points at plant level.
If you want to use the setting at material level then this would be done in the inspection plan.
question 3 If inspection point of material is changed in Tasklist and a new inspection lot is generated then it again reflect both the Inspection point?
The changing of inspection points is not possible (Inspection point definition)
The changing of inspection points in inspection plans is not recommended create a new plan in this case.
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Does any one have an idea whether we can use sampling procedure with free inspection points apart from In-Process Quality Inspection (Inspection Type 03)?
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hi
check the links canhelp you
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/b5/c4db38a91b11d1bd610000e829fdb3/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/2d/350c26448c11d189420000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
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Inspection point qty confirmation for operation - INprocess Inspection

Hi Experts,
After doing partial confirmation in the Result recording, the partial confirmed qty moves down to the next operation and is confirmed. But using QM result recording when I try to post the next partial qty, the system cancels the previous confirmation although the next operation has been confirmed for the partial qty. And I am able to confirm the full qty for the operation
How to avoid this situation ?
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Jomy

Dear Jomy,
Please use 150 as the inspection point in your routing header.
But please make sure that in configuration you have this maintained.
SPRO>QM> Quality planning > inspection planning > general > define identifier for inspection point> select the inspection point you are using >double click> function module> maintain in Automatic creation of insp. Points > maintain this function module QAPP_CUST_IP_CREATE > tick the use function module
Test with a new order and lot. Each time you go for RR it will go for new partial lots. So confirmation will get added up as in co11n process.
Hope this helps
Regards
gajesh

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Dear QM experts,
In SAP version 4.6C, I have setup inspection point type - 'Freely defined inspection point' which I used for my quality inspection after goods receipt.
Therefore, I setup the necessary setup in the Inspection plan header and operation level.
However, in another system, SAP version 4.0B, I realize the 'Freely defined inspection point' does not exist. Instead, I tried using 'Inspection point for inspection during production' but when I update the 'Inspection point' in the Inspection Plan header, I get an error message - Inspection point Z01 (type ) is not allowed for this task list type (Q).
I can't seem to find any config. which is missing. I did the same configuration as 4.6C.
Please advice how I can use 'Freely defined inspection point' in Inspection plan in SAP 4.0B.
Advice is much appreciated. Thank you.

Hi Bee,
As i have not that much hands on SAP releases 5.0 and olders. But what i can clearly see is, there is some change implemented in the new releases that don't constraint to assign inspection point 100 to tasklist type 2.
And the check is there for object, CP_DA_TSK_CHECK and CP_DA_TSK_CHECK - checks if inspection points are allowed for given task list, that is responcible for the error message QP289. That is a wrokround done by me. You can compair the code for the check with your program and may rectify the issue.
The code is as below for - CP_DA_TSK_CHECK
FORM tsk_inspection_points_check
      USING
       i_plnty                  LIKE tsk_class_data-plnty
       i_tsk_slwbez             LIKE tsk_class_data-slwbez
       i_tq79                   LIKE tq79
      CHANGING
       e_flg_tsk_check_aborted TYPE c.
DATA:
    l_qm_ip_type_allowed LIKE tsk_class_data-qm_ip_type_allowed.
CLEAR e_flg_tsk_check_aborted.
PERFORM tsk_qm_allowed_ip_type_set
          USING     i_plnty
          CHANGING l_qm_ip_type_allowed.
CALL FUNCTION 'QAFD_IP_SLWBEZ_CHECK'
       EXPORTING
            i_slwbez         = i_tsk_slwbez
            i_steuerkz       = l_qm_ip_type_allowed
       EXCEPTIONS
            x_ip_not_found   = 1
            x_ip_not_allowed = 2
            OTHERS           = 3.
IF sy-subrc NE 0.
wrong type of inspection point
E289: Insp. point &1 &2 is not allowed for task list type
    MESSAGE e289(qp) WITH i_tsk_slwbez
                          i_tq79-ppkttyp
                          i_plnty
                     INTO g_msg_dummy.
    CALL FUNCTION 'CP_MC_MESSAGE_COLLECT'
         EXCEPTIONS
              message_not_collected = 1
              OTHERS                = 2.
    e_flg_tsk_check_aborted = cp_check-flg_yes.
ENDIF.
ENDFORM.                               " sk_inspection_points_check
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Automatic valuation of inspection point for physical samples.

Hi,
My requirement is after recording results (QE11) for each and every sample, automatic valuation of inspection point to be done.
Inspection point valuation not done automatically even though I have created the required details in inspection Plan.
I have maintained the following details in inspection plan
In Inspection plan header:
Inspection Point : 200 & Sample Drawing Procedure
In Inspection Plan Operation Details:
Insp.Point Completion: Automatic valuation based on inspection point definition.
Is there any settings to be done in customiszation.
Please help me to solve this issue.
Thanks & Regards
V.Devaraj

Hello Sap-Guys.
I am facing the same problem, and I did several workarounds, to evalueate the inspection point by myself.
The problem is this :
We are using RFC-techniques to evaluate samples.
Shortly, there is an inspection , which is defined, to be per point, consisting of two user fields, date and time. There must be three things (characteristics )controlled, two manually, by the workers, and the third will be calculated internally by sap via formula.
The rfc-possibilities are provided by myself, building a rfc-enabled z-module, which calls some SAP-BAPIS, from which one is called
BAPI_INSPOPER_RECORDRESULTS
Until now I do not think, it behaves like tha sap-gui.
Am I doing something wrong, or does this module really not behave like the sap gui ???
If I evaluate the very first char , I check, whether this is the only one for this actual inspection point.
If so, I delete the code groups, if any, (only quantitative evaluation til now ) and the point stays grey, ok, because there are still two other char-evaluations missing.
If my char to evaluate is not the first, then I check, which are stil left, AND , if there are any left without evaluation, I also erase code and codegroups ( if any ) in the insppoint structure, so the char gets its evaluation and the point still stays grey.
But if there had been already any evaluations, I manually check , whether my actual value meets the tolerances, and then I manually tell the inspection-point structure, which code must be used, in order to set its own state correctly.
This means, if my actual sample meets the tolerances, and only one sample was rejected , I tell the inspection point, to stay red, by setting the approoriate code manually from qplak.
If all others were ok, but the actual evaluation ( calculated manually again, tolerances ... ) is not ok, then i tell the inspection point structure, to get "red".
I do this every time, a evaluation takes place, and it works nice for simple values.
And here is my big Problem :
My last characteristic of the three to be evaluated, must not be evaluated by the workers, but BY calculation inside sap, BECAUSE IT HAS A FORMULA.
Especially for this case I left a comment in my code, and now this case occurred.
So, what could be a better approach , to use this bapi, AND trigger automatic inspectionpoint evaluation WITHOUT MY ENTIRE WORKAROUND ( where I now see, that it cannot deal with formulas ) ???
( It could, if I debugged deep enough, to check, how it builds the formula ) , but bapis are there to use them.
Aren`t they???
Could anybody give me a hint ?
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R.Dornfeld

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Hai gurus,
i want to know the settings for inspection point user field(150)
1) Field combination = 150
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3) Functional location- field active = ?(predefined field)
under user field
1)Text length 18 - Field active = ?
2)Text length 10 - Field active = ?
3)Number length 10 - Field active = ?
4)Number length 3 - Field active = ?
5) Date - Field active = ?
6) Time - FIeld active = ?
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dear Sekar
1) 150 inspection point is maily used for production related inspection. 03 , 04 . it is a freely defined inspection point which means you want to carry out several inspections for each operation during the production process
2) It is not Inspection type it is inspection point type- There are mainly 3 inspection point type
Freely defined - explained
Equipment related - You need this inspection point type if you want to carry out calibration inspections and record the results of test equipment inspections or inspections of functional locations
Inspection points to identify samples-You need this inspection point type if you want to manage samples and record inspection results for physical samples
3) Predefined field is for identification of the inspection point.
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Example for point 3
The sample-drawing procedure determines the number of samples to be taken. The system automatically creates an inspection point for each sample.
4) User fields are again identification. You can add in key work text which will appear while result recording.
5) Field Active -This helps in sorting out the user fields. An identification field is only active if you have made an entry in this field.Fields with numeric entries are required fields. The numbering sequence that you define for these fields uniquely identify an inspection point.
a typical example can be User field/field active/keyword combination
1)Text length 18 -1 -Inspector Name
2)Text length 10 - 2- Location
3)Number length 10 - 3- Shift No
4)Number length 3 - 4- Section No
5) Date - 5- Date
6) Time - 6- Time
please Date and Time populates automaticaly. it is not mandatory that you use all the fields
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How come inspection points with DESTRUCTIVE MICs don't affect sample size?

Hi guys,
i have a case i tried on IDES and i need an explanation for it if you can.
@ the beginning we have an in-process inspection with inspection points and non-destructive MICs, the interval of 10 mins (of the inspection point) generated 3 inspections, and my sampling procedure led to a sample size of 1 PC, in the inspection lot display the sample size is "1", which is normal and i understand this.
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we will change one of the MICs and make it destructive. Now we have our 3 inspections. The normal logic says that I'm having 3 inspections and there is on of the MICs DESTRUCTIVE, therefore I'm must get 3 samples, one for each inspection, which means that when we check the sample size in the inspection lot we must get a size of 3, but when i tried this i got a size of 1 again....and this is not logical because my sample will be destructed in the first inspection so how can I carry on the remaining 2 inspections ???
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Hi Amol,
i'm sorry i don't understand what do you mean by operation confirmation quality ???
and about stock posting, i know as you said that it is not possible with in-process inspection, as the lot is not stock relevant, but whether it is stock relevant or not has nothing to do with the sample size calculation, my problem is that the logic says that i must get 3 samples because with each inspection i'll destruct my sample, but SAP calculations give only one sample !!!!
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Quality Certificates using Inspection Points

Hi Experts:
It's possible print a Quality Certificates using Inspection Points?
The theory says that I can create a directly Q. Certify from Inpection Lot
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/en/55/a8b43446a1c564e10000009b38f83b/frameset.htm
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2. Count number
3. Work Center
The customer wants the average from different characteristics.
Somebody can help me?

Hi Deihus,
Yes its possible with ABAP help.
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Create a Inspection Point

Hi,
I need help. What is the way to create a new Inspection point by the Transaction QE51N and the BAPI_INSPOPER_RECORDRESULTS?
Thanks in advance.

Dear Trini Rolden,
      The Transaction QE51N is used in SAP for result recording purpose.
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If you wants to prefer Customize Developement:-
user exit QAPP0001 -->User exit QAPP 1 (create inspection point)
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here you can call
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Inspection Point table

Dear All,
we are in the process of automating the results recording process using a Z program. For the results recording i have used Inspection points. What i mainly want to do is from several characteristics, Initially record results for one inspection characteristic and later record results for a different inspection characteristic. In the STD SAP this allows to do. What i want to know is since i use the Inspection points, what are the tables that will be used?
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Hi
Hope these details will help you
QALS Inspection lot record
QAPP Inspection point
TQ79 Table with inspection point/user field combinations
TQ79T Key words for inspeciton point user fields
QAMR Characteristic results during inspection processing
QAMV Characteristic specifications for inspection processing
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Hi Experts,
We uses inspection points to record muiltiple result,
Because there are different persons to create inspection points and record results,
if there are tcode for create inspection points, we can do it more convenience。
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Denis.
Moderator message: too vague, help not possible, please describe problems in all technical detail when posting again.
Edited by: Thomas Zloch on Feb 18, 2011 5:10 PM

Hello Mr. Amorsen,
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3 - In SE93, change the program to Z created in step before
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6 - Change the include ; LZCHANGE_REQUEST_SOCMTOP
     IN LINE 30 : gc_processtype(4) TYPE c
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8 - In SE38 report: ZCHANGE_REQUEST_CREATE_SOCM , change the call function SOCM_CHANGE_REQUEST_CREATE to Z
9 - activate.
Done !!!
<<text removed>>
Regards
Claudenir Bispo
Edited by: Matt on Oct 5, 2011 9:39 AM

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