R3 workflow versus Netweaver

Hi,
We have implemented several workflows on the R3 business workflow platform. As they are not reliable, we will need to take some action to redesign the workflow solution. The basic question I have is : Should we stick to the R3 workflow solution or should be move into the Netweaver technology...
Has anyone already done a comparison between the two technologies ? Or does someone have practical experience with the netweaver workflow solutions ?
Thx,
Dirk Struyf

Hi Dirk,
Well, before answering your query, I would like to know what is this NETWEAVER WORKFLOW SOLUTIONS???Are you refering to GUIDED PROCEDURES??? Or some other technology.
If you ask me the difference, basic workflow remains the same, expect the interface...I mean, in 4.7, we call the normal ABAP Dynpro application on execution of workitem. And in ECC+, we call the Web based applications on execution of workitem. Ultimately, the foreground stuff changes. I dont see any difference in WORKFLOWS level.
Regards
Raja Sekhar

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2. What is/are the different between workflow and BPM. If I am going to implement workflow in a company, do I need to implement business workflow as well as BPM?
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Please ask only one (or closely related) questions per thread. This makes it a lot easier to get a good structure in the database of previously answered questions. While we are on the subject of previously answered questions, I think you should have a look at them....
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1. Close this thread
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PDF is definately a format I want to include, to collaborate with other divisions and SME for one reason, but also for the ease in including 3D interactive target models with in it and portability. I plan on being able to provide individual PDFs that are very specific in their topics and to also use them to disperse user guides, cheat sheets or job aids... something the user may want to laminate on their own and keep with them for reference, printed out. Discussion in these sheets would be drasticly reduced to only the elements, relying heavely on bullet points or steps, usfull graphs, charts and tables... and of course illustrative images. I am thinking that these should be downloadable buttons to print on each topic section, not in a general apendix or such. They would hopefully be limited to one page, double sided 8x10.
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Theo,
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