Re: (forte-users) (UPDATE) Forte not letting go of Oracleconnections

All,
I have been communicating with Forte regarding this
issue. I was informed that a fix for this bug will be
released in SP2 tentatively due at the end of May.
Forte also confirmed that the bug was introduced in
3.5 and exists in 3.5.1.
Samer Kanjo
--- Joseph Mirwald <jomirweb.de> wrote:
Hello all,
some time ago we talked about the problem, that some
DBSession-connects hang
if the partition where the DBSessionSO is used goes
down.
Ok, there may be some problems with forte or the
Database (TWO_TASK, and so
on).
Does anybody implement a DBSession.Disconnect() when
partition goes down?
I mean the partition exits by a kill or by escript
or econsole, not by a
Forte-Method call
of somewhere else.
I thought the solution must be a loop which
registers for the
task.Shutdown-event, but at
the init-method I couldn't stay in a loop and wait,
because i has to call
the service-objects
methods. Another solution may be a 'start task
LoopMethod()' which are
registers the
event, but i don't try it now, because i don't know
the side-effects
because the thread calls
a method of the 'mother-process' which goes down
also.
What is your solution or idea?
Joseph Mirwald
GERMANY
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RE: (forte-users) Forte not letting go of Oracleconnections

Hello Amin, Samer and David,
thank you for your fast reply.
The technical support in Germany give at least a good idea to prevent the
problem in future:
Available at Forte 3.5 and above
ER #35575 : user wants TOOL code to detect partition
shutdown and time to do something
Add a new interface, AtExitHandler, to Framework, with just one
method: RunAtExit();
Add a new method to Partition:
AtExit(AtExitHandler);
At shutdown time, managed partitions will call RunAtExit on all
registered AtExitHandlers in the same sequence that they called
AtExit on the partition.
This activity takes place synchronously before we start tearing the
partition apart, with the partition explicitly set by the active part
agent to the one we are supposed to be shutting down, so it should be
pretty safe for the user to run any code he likes.
We will catch and display any exceptions produced by the callbacks,
so that errors don't keep shutdown from proceeding (it is still possible
for the user to write code that hangs and blocks shutdown that way,
but I don't know what we could do about that besides getting into
timeouts etc.).
I think it is always a good idea to disconnect the DB-Session because you
do it with
most other tools from Database automatically, so why don't do it generally
by use of
a programming-language?!?
I try this feature in any case.
Thanks for all who answered to this message
Joseph Mirwald
GERMANY
At 17:13 13.03.01 -0500, Amin, Kamran wrote:
That was the initial problem. Forte as logged a bug on this issue and
hopefully fix it soon.
Look for bug# 54610.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Mirwald [mailto:jomirweb.de]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 4:12 PM
To: Forte Users
Subject: (forte-users) Forte not letting go of Oracle connections
Hello all,
some time ago we talked about the problem, that some DBSession-connects hang
if the partition where the DBSessionSO is used goes down.
Ok, there may be some problems with forte or the Database (TWO_TASK, and so
on).
Does anybody implement a DBSession.Disconnect() when partition goes down?
I mean the partition exits by a kill or by escript or econsole, not by a
Forte-Method call
of somewhere else.
I thought the solution must be a loop which registers for the
task.Shutdown-event, but at
the init-method I couldn't stay in a loop and wait, because i has to call
the service-objects
methods. Another solution may be a 'start task LoopMethod()' which are
registers the
event, but i don't try it now, because i don't know the side-effects
because the thread calls
a method of the 'mother-process' which goes down also.
What is your solution or idea?
Joseph Mirwald
GERMANY
For the archives, go to: http://lists.xpedior.com/forte-users and use
the login: forte and the password: archive. To unsubscribe, send in a new
email the word: 'Unsubscribe' to: forte-users-requestlists.xpedior.com

Hello Amin, Samer and David,
thank you for your fast reply.
The technical support in Germany give at least a good idea to prevent the
problem in future:
Available at Forte 3.5 and above
ER #35575 : user wants TOOL code to detect partition
shutdown and time to do something
Add a new interface, AtExitHandler, to Framework, with just one
method: RunAtExit();
Add a new method to Partition:
AtExit(AtExitHandler);
At shutdown time, managed partitions will call RunAtExit on all
registered AtExitHandlers in the same sequence that they called
AtExit on the partition.
This activity takes place synchronously before we start tearing the
partition apart, with the partition explicitly set by the active part
agent to the one we are supposed to be shutting down, so it should be
pretty safe for the user to run any code he likes.
We will catch and display any exceptions produced by the callbacks,
so that errors don't keep shutdown from proceeding (it is still possible
for the user to write code that hangs and blocks shutdown that way,
but I don't know what we could do about that besides getting into
timeouts etc.).
I think it is always a good idea to disconnect the DB-Session because you
do it with
most other tools from Database automatically, so why don't do it generally
by use of
a programming-language?!?
I try this feature in any case.
Thanks for all who answered to this message
Joseph Mirwald
GERMANY
At 17:13 13.03.01 -0500, Amin, Kamran wrote:
That was the initial problem. Forte as logged a bug on this issue and
hopefully fix it soon.
Look for bug# 54610.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Mirwald [mailto:jomirweb.de]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 4:12 PM
To: Forte Users
Subject: (forte-users) Forte not letting go of Oracle connections
Hello all,
some time ago we talked about the problem, that some DBSession-connects hang
if the partition where the DBSessionSO is used goes down.
Ok, there may be some problems with forte or the Database (TWO_TASK, and so
on).
Does anybody implement a DBSession.Disconnect() when partition goes down?
I mean the partition exits by a kill or by escript or econsole, not by a
Forte-Method call
of somewhere else.
I thought the solution must be a loop which registers for the
task.Shutdown-event, but at
the init-method I couldn't stay in a loop and wait, because i has to call
the service-objects
methods. Another solution may be a 'start task LoopMethod()' which are
registers the
event, but i don't try it now, because i don't know the side-effects
because the thread calls
a method of the 'mother-process' which goes down also.
What is your solution or idea?
Joseph Mirwald
GERMANY
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RE: (forte-users) Forte not letting go of Oracle connections+ RE: (fort

The bug was just reported yesterday so they might not have it available to
the public for a while. I am guessing this bug has been around since 3.M.?
and its very easy to verify it if its happening in your environment. Also I
have been talking to other user that are not using Oracle (Sybase instead)
who are also seen the same problem. I think this is a problem across all
database because there is some fundamental event or process that is not
taking place to close database connections. But just to be safe verify it
in your test environment before moving to 3.5. To verify if its happening
in your Forte version just create a small application that connects to the
database and run it in debug mode. Log into the database and then stop the
debug session. The connection will still be open. This will also occur
when you use the running man or in a deployed application.
ka
-----Original Message-----
From: Labeaux Schiek [mailto:DHSV017dhs.state.il.us]
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 7:21 AM
To: kamran.aminlendware.com; Forte-userslists.xpedior.com
Subject: RE: (forte-users) Forte not letting go of Oracle connections +
RE: (forte-users) SQL Server Maximum DB Processes already allocated.
Hi Kamran,
I just looked up bug # 54610 in Cyber Support and it is not there yet, so a
question.
In your opinion, does this effect all databases? We are using DB2 and
considering going to 3.5 . Are we going to see the same problems you have
had with Oracle?
-thanks
-labeaux
"Amin, Kamran" <kamran.aminlendware.com> 02/28/01 05:28PM >>>Update on my problem. Well now its everybody's problem. Forte has
conformed the bug. Bug number 54610 for your reference.
thanks to everybody for the help..
ka
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The bug was just reported yesterday so they might not have it available to
the public for a while. I am guessing this bug has been around since 3.M.?
and its very easy to verify it if its happening in your environment. Also I
have been talking to other user that are not using Oracle (Sybase instead)
who are also seen the same problem. I think this is a problem across all
database because there is some fundamental event or process that is not
taking place to close database connections. But just to be safe verify it
in your test environment before moving to 3.5. To verify if its happening
in your Forte version just create a small application that connects to the
database and run it in debug mode. Log into the database and then stop the
debug session. The connection will still be open. This will also occur
when you use the running man or in a deployed application.
ka
-----Original Message-----
From: Labeaux Schiek [mailto:DHSV017dhs.state.il.us]
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 7:21 AM
To: kamran.aminlendware.com; Forte-userslists.xpedior.com
Subject: RE: (forte-users) Forte not letting go of Oracle connections +
RE: (forte-users) SQL Server Maximum DB Processes already allocated.
Hi Kamran,
I just looked up bug # 54610 in Cyber Support and it is not there yet, so a
question.
In your opinion, does this effect all databases? We are using DB2 and
considering going to 3.5 . Are we going to see the same problems you have
had with Oracle?
-thanks
-labeaux
"Amin, Kamran" <kamran.aminlendware.com> 02/28/01 05:28PM >>>Update on my problem. Well now its everybody's problem. Forte has
conformed the bug. Bug number 54610 for your reference.
thanks to everybody for the help..
ka
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Hello all,
some time ago we talked about the problem, that some DBSession-connects hang
if the partition where the DBSessionSO is used goes down.
Ok, there may be some problems with forte or the Database (TWO_TASK, and so
on).
Does anybody implement a DBSession.Disconnect() when partition goes down?
I mean the partition exits by a kill or by escript or econsole, not by a
Forte-Method call
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I thought the solution must be a loop which registers for the
task.Shutdown-event, but at
the init-method I couldn't stay in a loop and wait, because i has to call
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methods. Another solution may be a 'start task LoopMethod()' which are
registers the
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Hello all,
some time ago we talked about the problem, that some DBSession-connects hang
if the partition where the DBSessionSO is used goes down.
Ok, there may be some problems with forte or the Database (TWO_TASK, and so
on).
Does anybody implement a DBSession.Disconnect() when partition goes down?
I mean the partition exits by a kill or by escript or econsole, not by a
Forte-Method call
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I thought the solution must be a loop which registers for the
task.Shutdown-event, but at
the init-method I couldn't stay in a loop and wait, because i has to call
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methods. Another solution may be a 'start task LoopMethod()' which are
registers the
event, but i don't try it now, because i don't know the side-effects
because the thread calls
a method of the 'mother-process' which goes down also.
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