Re: RAM - Sweet Spot

Hey guys,
Does anyone know of any benchmarks out there that tests for the RAM sweet spot for Adobe Premiere Pro CS5?
Windows 7 64-bit Professional can support up to 192GB of RAM. When is it too much RAM?

Hey guys,
Thanks for the link to PPBM5, I will definitely check it out!
Also for the 'memory chips' or DIMM size as they say in the industry, there are actually 16GB DDR3 ECC Registered modules out there. The cheapest is the Hynix 16GB (DDR3 ECC Registered) at memorydepot.com for $500. All the new server/workstation boards support it (well actually the memory controller embedded on the die of the AMD and Intel CPUI's support it).
The upcoming AMD Interlagos and Xeon E7-xxxx chips will support 32GB Modules (Samsung is the first to provide the actual chips to ODM's).
I think the main thing for me (keep in mind I have yet to check out the PPBM5 site yet, so my opinion may change after having checked it) is to get a motherboard that has the most expandability so that later on I can add more RAM. Right now I really like the Asus KGPE board (this is an AMD Opteron Socket G34 chipset) as it has 16 DIMM slots with each of them supporting up to 16GB sized modules!
Yes I know that Windows 7 64-bit Profissional/Ultimate only supports up to 192GB, but again it is about future proofing as my current motherboard 'only' supports 16GB in total.
Also I like the AMD Opteron platform (Socket G34) because future AMD chips (at least for the next cycle of SKU's) will support the SAME motherboard without having to buy a new one unlike with Intel.
Althernatively there is the SUPERMICRO MBD-H8SGL-F-O motherboard which is also Socket G34 for AMD and is a SINGLE socket board with 8 x DIMMs with each DIMM supporting 16GB modules, this would be a good economical choice. The board is also half the price of the Asus KGPE.
Intel however doesn't seem to have the same value offering, although yes they do perform better with Premiere Pro CS5 so it may be worth the price premium.

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sapam
1) How many photos should be there in a Library at max. to have iPhoto perform efficiently?
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