Realised exchange difference by internal order

When clearing an open AP item with a payment, the realised exchange rate difference is posted to the P+L against the relevant cost centre (From the purchase order). However, the assigment to the internal order (also contained in the Purchase order) is lost.
Is there a way to determine the account assignment of the realised exchange postings?
Note:
The internal order (AUFNR) is an optional entry field in our exchange difference accounts.
The Realised exchange differences pick up the correct c ost centre from the invoice but not the Internal order
Thanks!

We once had a similar requirement - the only difference is that we wanted the exch. rate diff. to go to the WBS element (which is on the PO). All we did was to add WBS element as a document splitting characteristic in the following node in SPRO.
Financial Accounting (New) -> General Ledger Accounting (New) -> Business Transactions -> Document Splitting -> Define Document Splitting Characteristics for Controlling
And it worked!!!
You can add Order (AUFNR) and see if it serves your requirement.
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Hi everybody,
Please help me with any tip.
After the settlement of internal order, the balance of currency of the company (10-BRL) is zero, it is OK, but the problem is the balance in hard currency (40-USD) there is difference.
Scenario Currency FI (OB22):
> 1st local currency:
Crcy Type: 10 - company code currency - Currency: BRL
Valuation: 0 Legal Valuation
ExRateType: M - Standard translation at average rate.
Srce curr: 1 - Translation taking transaction currency as a basis
TrsDte typ: 3 Translation date
> 2st local currency:
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Valuation: 0 - Legal Valuation
ExRateType: M - Standard translation at average rate
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> Assignment Control > CoCd->CO Area = Cross-company-code cost accounting
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No flag: Active
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1st - Posting with internal order (FB60)
2nd - Settlement internal order (KO88)
3rd - FBL3N
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In your opinion, Does the configuration in OKKP is correct?
Scenario Currency CO (OKKP):
> Assignment Control > CoCd->CO Area = Cross-company-code cost accounting
Currency Type:10 - Company code currency
Currency: BRL (Brazilian Currency)
No flag : Diff. CCode Currency
No flag: Active
Where is BRL I think that should be USD.
The system do the exchange rate ok, but what about the difference because of it? Is there any problem continue with it?
G/L: 800068, Post Date: 30/11/09, Doc Date: 27/11/09, LCurr: BRL, Amount: 1000,00-, LCurr2: USD, Amount loc curr2: 666,67-
G/L: 800068, Post Date: 27/11/09, Doc Date:01/10/09, LCurr: BRL, Amount: 1000,00, LCurr2: USD, Amount loc curr2: 500,00
Balance of LCurr: BRL = 0,00
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Payment is made in foreign currency CHF and debited to Internal Order (CIP); it was translated to Local currency USD as per that dayu2019s exchange rate.
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Balance amount was later nullified by entering a manual entry.
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there is an option in the configuration for F Exchange Rate.
i think your configuration is ok. But in your configuration you are using some G/L accounts for F Gain & F Loss.
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Can someone throw some light on the differences between WBS Element & Internal Order?
Regards,
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Hi Amit,
To understand the difference between WBS Element & Internal Order, i shall take them one after the other.
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Hi,
WBS:
The work breakdown structure (WBS) is a model of the project that organizes project tasks into a hierarchy.
It is the functional basis for further planning steps in a project, for example, for process planning, cost planning, scheduling, capacity planning or costing, as well as project control.
It gives you a clear picture of the project and facilitates the coordination and implementation of the project from a management standpoint.
It shows the work involved in a project.
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/a9/8a853488601e33e10000009b38f83b/frameset.htm
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check this link also
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/a9/ab7f68414111d182b10000e829fbfe/frameset.htm
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Hi,
Good morning and greetings,
The term TECO stands for Technically Completed and this status is activated to do month end settlements to the IO so that costs accumulated till that point would be compared against the planned cost and would be settled for difference... The TECO status would be revoked after the month end to continue for further collecting of costs and would be settled finally...Once you invoke the status CLSD the system will not allow you to post any more further postings to the internal order.
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