Rebate Agreement / Billing

Is it possible to create Rebate Agreement in crm and Billing in ecc? also with an eye to the rebate settlement..

Hi Manish
System will ask to recreate the billing index if any billing documents are there for that sales organization.So you have to run the report RV15B001 which will be for the payer also.
It will update the old billing documents of that sales organization also
Regards
Srinath

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Table linking rebate agreement to billing doc?

Hi,
Is there an SAP table that contains both rebate agreement nbr AND billing doc nbr? I have a requirement to extract this info for one of our pricing team.
Thanks in advance.
Mike

Hi,
Run the Report "SDBONT06" in the Test Mode It should give you the list of billing documents per the particulat agrrement. You can take this data.
Regards
Ram Pedarla

Billing Index for Rebate agreement

Hi ,
When i m activating the rebate agreement for a particular Sales Organization and saving it, system asks if we need to recreate the billing index.
Can anybody please help me to know its purpose and impacts ??
Regards,
Manish

Hi Manish
System will ask to recreate the billing index if any billing documents are there for that sales organization.So you have to run the report RV15B001 which will be for the payer also.
It will update the old billing documents of that sales organization also
Regards
Srinath

Rebate Agreements for Archived Billing Docs

Can anyone help me with how to find Rebate Agreements associated with ARCHIVED billing documents. I know table M-VMCFB will give me billing docs and rebate agreements, but archived billing docs aren't on there. There must be a way to find the info as I can drill down on individual billing docs in VF07 to get the rebate agreement number for an item. But how do I do it for a list of archived billing docs?
Thanks for your time.

Hello Friend,
Run the T.code VFRB.

Rebate condition in rebate agreement cannot be maintained (greyed out)

Hi.
We have setup rebate processing in CRM 7.0.
We get our invoice to the billing due list and it fills then the extract. But we fail in setting up the rebate agreemnt in the webui.
Partner and material are entered. On the position (material) we try to add one of the conditions of the maintenance group we customized. Both condition types can be selected but none of them will work.
What happens: we click on "new" select the condition type and get then presented with the view but with all fields greyed out (as in display mode).
As there are a lot of obligatory fields we get up to 8 messages. After "fill in required entry fields" it says "maintain rebate material".
Whatever that means.
The material we use is a finished product.
Has somebody ever seen this or some idea. Couldn't find oss messages on this.
Thanks.
Regards,
Thorsten

Hi Klaas,
If I remember well, in the standard price determination there is a conditional formula that only shows rebate conditions in the invoice, therefore you should not see rebate conditions in the sales order.
That is standard functionality.
For a Customer I took out the formula condition in the pricing so he could actually see the rebate condition in the sales order, the reason was to had access to this information before end of month invoicing. The problem is that in case of changes in rebate agreement or in case of retrospective agreements the rebate condition is only updated in the invoice, not in the sales order.
Best Regards,
Franck

Rebate agreement-Difference coming for credit note value and drill down value .

Hello Friends,
In 2013 we had created one rebate for which the validity period was 1st April 2013 to 31st March 2014 . At the end of each month, rebate amount was settled by raising credit note to the customer . Now at the end of March'14 during final settlement, a credit note was raised to the customer . The issue here is there is difference of 1.13 (Pounds) between credit note value and the drill down value for March'14 . Lets say our credit note value is-100 (Pounds)and Drill down value for the month March'14 is 101.13 Pounds. We are not able to find out why this difference is coming . Please let me know your inputs on this .
Regards,
Sandeep G.

Sandeep -
During final settlement of a rebate agreement, it calculates rebate amout for the the entire time period less payments already made to a customer and then issues a credit memo request based on that.Please check all the the invoices created during entire period and check accrual calculation.It should match.
You can check VBOX table to get billing documents for the entire period.
Let us know if you still have an issue.
Thanks & Regards
Amit Gupta

Rebate Agreement Replication CRM to R3 and vice-versa

Hi All,
We have a requirement of creating Rebate Agreement and maintaining the conditions in the same.
When we create an order (in R3 or CRM) the values has to be populated from the rebate agreement.
Scenario A:
The setup of rebate is completed in R3, we have downloaded the conditions from R3 to CRM and when we are creating the order in CRM the rebates are not getting recognized. Upon analysis we found that we have to download the rebate agreements too and the respective object is REBATE_DNL_AGR.
(Rebates are working fine for Pricing in R3.)
Scenario B:
We have tried an workaround of creating rebate agreements in CRM and uploading them to R3, object used is REBATE_AGRMNTS but no success.
(In this case rebates are working fine for Pricing in CRM.)
We are facing issues in replicating the Rebate agreements from CRM to R3 and vice versa.
When we do the initial load R3AS of below objects, they are not progressing and not appearing in queues too. Status is always running
CRM to R3 for rebate agreement – REBATE_AGRMNTS
R3 to CRM for rebate agreement - REBATE_DNL_AGR
If you have any inputs, pls share. Thanks
Regards,
MK

Hi Kalyan,
Did you achieve scenario B ?. You also mentioned that for scenario B , it works fine with pricing in CRM. Was the billing happening in CRM or ECC in that case ?.
Did the scenario A worked ?.

What is the DataSource for 'Rebate Agreement' (Data comes KONA,KONP&KONH) ?

Hi all,
What is the DataSource name for 'Rebate Agreement', please?
This data comes KONA, KONP & KONH tables.
Thanks,
Venkat.

Hello Venkat,
you can extract it from 2LIS_13_VDKON Extraction of SD Billing Conditions
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/17/cd5e407aa4c44ce10000000a1550b0/frameset.htm
Sarhan.

Rebates agreements (extremely urgent)

Dear SAP experts,
I need your help in rebate agreements (RA).
I have setup the condition tables for RAs to accept Sales Area, ship-to, and EAN (MARA-EAN11) as combination. Together with material determination table, it does a mapping/substitution whenever I create a sales order which works like a charm to map to the access sequences and conditions I have created.
However, there is an issue with this setup. Each EAN can actually map to multiple MARA-MATNR (material numbers) depending on the MATNR lifecycle (i.e. 1 EAN to M MATNR).
For instance, EAN 123456 can have material abc assigned to it today, but due to a product being pulled out of market, business reuses that EAN 123456 and assigns it to another MATNR later on. To ensure that the right EAN-MATNR combination happens at a time, the material determination table (MDT) was used as an approach.
However, when I create RAs with condition type Sales Area, ship-to, and EAN (MARA-EAN11) combination, the "material for settlements" field is required as input. As the "material for settlements" field is KONP-BOMAT with check table MARA, it is not possible for me to put in EAN for the material as it requires a MARA-MATNR field.
One of the options I was thinking was to do a conversion using MDT prior to creation of RA. Note however that when the MDT data changes, there will be inconsistencies with what's happening in real life versus what was mapped: the RA's take the conversion from EAN -> MATNR based on the contents of the MDT at the point of RA creation, and do not get updated automatically even when other MATNR get assigned to the same EAN.
My questions as follows:
1. What is really the materials for settlement field? How does this field impact the creation of credit memos? How does this impact the settlements process?
2. I would need to create an output report based on the rebates generated on EAN level. My understanding is that SAP is working on the MATNR level. Is there any way to go about this given the situation described above?
3. Given that the data in the MDT changes against the FPC, is there any way to ensure that the EAN is the "key field" used for data processing in place of the MATNR field in the RA "material for settlement" field?
4. Any advice on how EAN will impact RA creation, order, delivery, shipping, invoicing?
Thanks a lot for your help in advance.

hi
Rebates Processs in SAP is divided into three components
1) Configuring Rebates
2) Setting Up Rebates
3) Managing rebate agreeeements and payments
Pre-requsiistes- Check the following:
1.The payer partner needs toi have the rebate field checked in the customer master on the sales area-billing doc tab.
2.The Billing type must be marked as relevant for rebates.
3.The Sales Organisation must be marked as relevant for rebates.
Condition Technique :
Rebates, use the condition technique, but distinguish themselves from pricing in applying to transactions over time, versus on a transaction basis. Rebates have their wn field catalog and their own condition table naming convention.So you could have two condition table "001" one for pricing and one for rebates, which could have different key fields. You need to use the technical names A001 For pricing and KOTe001 for rebates when you use the query type using transaction SE 16..
Use create access sequence (AS). Enter 1 in field category for rebate specific. AS after going thru the right path of maintaining access sequence for rebates.
The big difference between the rebate and the pricing access sequence is that there is no exclsuion flag available for rebate related AS. This means multiple tables for an access sequence can be aplied at the same time.
Rebate related condition types are identified by codnition class -C.
After defining and creating condition types for rebated include them in the pricing proceedure. The requirement should be 24 here which implies that the accruals are calculated on the basis of invoice/bill.
The other fields- alctyp and altcbv does not allow you to manipulate how a rebate is calculated. Also, remove the requiremnt 24, if u want to see reabtes at order time.
Now payment of rebates:
Payments can be maunal or in full settlement. When you do manual payments, it defines how much can be paid out during a partial settlemetn. You use partial settlement only when rebate agreement is defined for a full year but the paoyouts are supposed to happen on a monthly, quarterly or anyother specified period.
These accurals are based on sales volume and when they are posted billing is created int eh follwoing manner. Provision for accruals is debited and Sales revenue is credited. When rebate credit memo is created
Customer account/ is debited and
Accrual provision account is credited.
Also, please note that when rebates are created without dependent ona material but on customer/material you need to refer to a material for settlement.
Rewards point it helps

Accruals not updated for Changed Rebate agreement when VBOF performed.

Hi Pals,
Need your assistance in solving an incident . our client has changed the valid to date of the rebate agreement on 29.04.2014 in VBO2 from 28.02.1014 to 31.12.2014, later it was observed that the rebate accruals for the blling documents generated after 28.02.104 to till date were not updated even after running the report VBOF. There are 15000 invoices after 29.04.2014 , hence it is difficult to check which invoices carries my rebate condition type.
hence pls advice on
1. how to find out the invoices for the changed agreement .
2. How to update the accruals for the invoices that were created after 28.02.2014 to till date.
An early reply would be highly appreciated.
Br
Krishna.K

Dear krishna
i tried your scenario--so after changing the validity for my Material rebate agreement type--i ran VBOF(SDBONT06)--so system has shown the updated billing doc with rebate which was not having any rebate condition earlier.
Have you tried by retrieving all the billing docs created after service render date of 28th Feb14.
Please take all the billing docs created after this date from VBRK table and you check some random billings docs whether rebate condition type is active with condition record or not.
(other wise you try with by executing condition record numbers in KONV(doc condition number--then followed by VBRK)
pl update us..
Phanikumar

Rebate Agreement manual accruals not updating in agreement

Hello,
I am configuring extended rebate agreements and am working with the MANUAL ACCRUAL functionality.
I can create a manual accrual from the agreement and sales order type B4 is created and billed as type B4. I can see the impact correctly to the G/L and provisional accounts. When i go back to the agreement in VBO2, I DO NOT see any error messages saying the agreement is not up to date, but i also don't see the accrual increase under the Sales Volume or Verification views.
I only see billing document that came through regular customer invoices where i accrued. If i look under Rebate Payments menu ---> Rebate Documents, i see the manual accrual documents. My question is...if i accrued 500$ through regular invoicing...and then we do a manual accrual for addition 200$, where do i see a total accrual of 700$? All i seeunder verification is the original 500$? Is this just standard behavior?
Note: i've checked agreement config and manual accruals are checked on...info structures set to "1 Syncronous Updating" and agreement is up to date per VBOF.
Regards

Hi Neeraj,
When you post manual accruals via a billing document which is posted in FI, the table S060 will be updated with the amount for the condition record (field S060-RUWRT) this field holds a total value of accruals this can include manual accruals, postings form relevant billing document lines and accruals that were reversed via a partial payment. When the final settlement is carried out all of these are calculated and the accruals condition in the final settlement will reverse completely all accruals related to an agreement at that time.
However, Rebate payments have to be made to a customer based on REAL sales volumes. If there is no sales volume then no payment would be due.
Regards,
Raghavendra

Currency exchange rate differences in rebate agreement settlements

Hi Experts,
My customer has issue in Rebate agreements and final settlements.
ISSUE:
Rebate agreement currency is EUR
Billing document currency is EUR
Company code currency is SEK
Initially ( Before final settlement)
The accrual amount in sales volumen 3151.05 EUR
the accrual amount in drill down 3152.05 EUR
After Final settlement
The accrual amount in sales volumen 2.62 EUR
the accrual amount in drill down 3152.05 EUR
The accounting documents shows after final settlement
customer A/c 3151.98 EUR credit
Expenses A/C 3151.98 EUR debit
Accrual A/c 3149.43 EUR debit
Expenses A/C 3149.43 EUR credit
The difference of 2.55 EUR is due to currency differences.
there is no retrospective rabte processing .
Kindly give your expertise resolve the issue of currency exchange rate difference in customer currency.
Immediate response is highly appriciated
Thanking you
With regards
Murali
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Murali Krishna Lanka
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Murali Krishna Lanka

HiI
f you set this selection field then the settings in the ERD Setting column for this currency type are no longer relevant. The system calculates and posts exchange rate differences between order-related goods receipts and invoices not just for materials with standard price, but also for:
Materials with moving average price
Account-assigned transactions
Planned delivery costs
The valuation of the inventories or consumption is effectively done at the exchange rate for the goods receipt, and not at the exchange rate of the invoice. When you post the good receipts, the fixed exchange rate from the purchase order is not used, but the translation of the purchase order values to local currency is always done at the posting date of the goods receipt.
If you are using the material ledger with actual costing, the system does not include the posted exchange rate differences at period-end closing in the actual prices of the materials.
Regards
Antony

How to Activate Extended Rebate Agreements

HI All Gurus,
We are using the SAP ECC 5.0 Version.
My Client Requires certain features which can be handled through Extended rebate agreements.
As per the documentation.
Can Anyone help in how to activate the Extended Rebate Agreements.
Thanks in Advance
Sachin Dhiman

Hi sachin
1. change the time frame in tcode VBO1
2.. Update doc is VBOF
3. IF doing retro billing go to VFRB

Currency in Rebate Agreement is different to Curr. required for Credit Memo

Hello!
I have a question regarding Rebate Agreements.
We have clients with whom we have Rebate Agreements in USD, but clients are chilean so the Credit Memo is meant to be in Chilean Pesos. But there is apparently no possiblity to change the currency neither in Credit Memo Request neither in Credit Memo. The Chilean Financial Institute does not allow Credit Memo Document issued in USD, it has to be in Chilean Pesos!
Do you have any idea how to solve this problem?
Thank you very much,
Dominik Ley
Santiago de Chile

Hi domnik
First of all maintain currency conversion in OBO8 . Now when you settle the rebate agreement then go to Credit memo order (change mode) and in item data ->conditions tab change the currency then automatically the value will also change and the same value will flow to the Credit memo billing document and then you can forward it to FI.
Regards
Srinath

Rebate Agreement Create/Change by BAPI_AGREEMENTS, BAPI_PRICES_CONDITIONS

I have to create/change Rebate agreement by the transaction code VBO1 and VBO2. I found two function modules(not RFC) BAPI_AGREEMENTS and BAPI_PRICES_CONDITIONS. However I found these function modules are not SAP Released yet (in ECC 6.0). Is it okay to use thesebfunction modules. if not, is there any other FM/Bapi for this.

HI,
You can create the Rebate Agreement using this BAPI BAPI_AGREEMENT
You have to pass the following fields :
Operation : 005
Agree_Cond : $
Sales-Org :
Distr_Chan :
Division :
Agr_Type :
Category : A
Application : V
Recipient :
Ex_Descr :
Valid_From :
Valid_To :
Cond_Group : This value you can find from SPRO. Search for Rebate in Search Tab; there you will get the link in Billing.
This will solve your purpose.

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