Rebate processing & assign provision account

Hi
When configure rebate processing ,account determination for rebates / assign G/L account / accounting key step we maintain table like below.
application/condtype/chartAcc/salsOrg/Actkey/GL acc/provision acc.
Here I have a doubt.what is the purpose of assign the provision account number
thanks&regards
sagar

Hi Sagar,
The provision account number is where the rebate amount from the invoices is posted to during the rebate period. It is posted with an approximate percentage as the precise percentage will only be known, when the agreement is settled. At the time of the settlement the actual sales is summed up and depending on the agreement details a percentage is found to calculate the final rebate amount. The credit note for the settlement will clear the provision account for the amount posted during the rebate period.
best regards
Michael

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Hi,Guru's
am new this forum,
while creating Invoice am getting this error as " Error in A/c Determination ",and by checking the A/c det.Analysis it'ssaying that
" 10 125 Accruals condition: The second G/L account is missing "
I entered the G/L account numbers for both ERB & ERU ,eventhough Iam getting this error.
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Ensure that in VKOA the said G/L Accounts are maintained. This being a rebate process, in VKOA, in the last column also, you should assign a provisional G/L Account which seems to be missing.
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Rebates-Clearing the provision FI account

Hi,
when having the rebate agreement open for the customer,
in every invoice we post amount to the FI provision account.
IF the business decides in final of the year that customer didnt fullfill the requirements
and will not give the bonus,HOW we can clear the amounts posted in the provision amount??
Is the SAP standard having solution for this?
Thanks in advance and best regards
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A very simple way to do it using standard functionality is to "zero-out" the condition records in the agreement, and then run VBOF to adjust the accruals.

Can u tell me waht r the steps involved in rebate processing

hi guru's this is suresh.advanced thanks for all gurus

Rebates Processs in SAP is divided into three components
1) Configuring Rebates
2) Setting Up Rebates
3) Managing rebate agreeeements and payments
Pre-requsiistes- Check the following:
1.The payer partner needs toi have the rebate field checked in the customer master on the sales area-billing doc tab.
2.The Billing type must be marked as relevant for rebates.
3.The Sales Organisation must be marked as relevant for rebates.
Condition Technique :
Rebates, use the condition technique, but distinguish themselves from pricing in applying to transactions over time, versus on a transaction basis. Rebates have their wn field catalog and their own condition table naming convention.So you could have two condition table "001" one for pricing and one for rebates, which could have different key fields. You need to use the technical names A001 For pricing and KOTe001 for rebates when you use the query type using transaction SE 16..
Use create access sequence (AS). Enter 1 in field category for rebate specific. AS after going thru the right path of maintaining access sequence for rebates.
The big difference between the rebate and the pricing access sequence is that there is no exclsuion flag available for rebate related AS. This means multiple tables for an access sequence can be aplied at the same time.
Rebate related condition types are identified by codnition class -C.
After defining and creating condition types for rebated include them in the pricing proceedure. The requirement should be 24 here which implies that the accruals are calculated on the basis of invoice/bill.
The other fields- alctyp and altcbv does not allow you to manipulate how a rebate is calculated. Also, remove the requiremnt 24, if u want to see reabtes at order time.
Now payment of rebates:
Payments can be maunal or in full settlement. When you do manual payments, it defines how much can be paid out during a partial settlemetn. You use partial settlement only when rebate agreement is defined for a full year but the paoyouts are supposed to happen on a monthly, quarterly or anyother specified period.
These accurals are based on sales volume and when they are posted billing is created int eh follwoing manner. Provision for accruals is debited and Sales revenue is credited. When rebate credit memo is created
Customer account/ is debited and
Accrual provision account is credited.
Also, please note that when rebates are created without dependent ona material but on customer/material you need to refer to a material for settlement.
With Compliment: Srini
I have this same problem found in:
http://www.sap-img.com/sap-sd/rebate-process-with-ref-to-so.htm
However, can somebody explain it as I have problem in understanding the link.
What exactly do you wish to know in Rebates? The total outline of the Rebate process or each and every step in the SAP system?
First of all rebates are more or less discounts which are offered to customers. The rebates are based on the volume of the business the customer does with you within a specified time. for eg if the customer agrees for Rs.1 Crore worth of business with u in 1 year, then you activate your rebate porocess. if at the end of the year the customer DOES achieve the target u offer him say 2/3/4 % whatever is decided. The rebates are passed on to the customer in the form of Credit notes.
The rebate can be given to the customer at one time or in installments also.
This is broadly the outline of the rebate process.
R.Sreeram
Note : I recomend you to study the theory part of why rebate and why not a discount.
This will help you understand better.
May be I can help you with rebate process.(IN -IMG)
1. define a rebate agreement type
2. define a condition type group
3. define a condition type and place this condition
Type in the pricing procedure.(REQUIREMENT=24)
ALSO IN THE PROCEDURE- ACCRUAL KEY = ERU
YOU ALSO HAVE TO DO THE ACCOUNT DETERMINATION FOR REBATES.
Once you have defined all the 3 and assignment starts.
Assign the agreement type to the condition type group
Assign the cond type group to the condition type.
Condition technique is also used in rebates.
REBATE ACTIVATION- IN CUSTOMER MASTER, SALES ORGANISATION AND FOR THE BILLING DOCUMENT.
After having done this please proceed to maintain the condition record for the rebates (transaction code-vbo1)
Note: if you maintain the requirement coloumn with the requirement as 24 - the rebate will be affected in the billing document and if you dont give the requirement as 24 your rebate will be affected in the sales order.
The rebate process is completed when you have created a credit memo to the customer.
The document type for the partial settlement is R3.
Please make sure you open two screens SO THAT YOU CAN COMPARE THE NEW ENTRIES WHAT EVER YOU'RE DEFINING WITH THAT OF THE STANDARDS or first you try with the standard condition type boo1, boo2
boo3 boo4.
AFTER YOU HAVE FINISHED A COMPLETE SALES CYCLE OF CREATION ORDER , DELIVERY AND BILLING.
GO TO THE CONDITION RECORD IN CHANGE MODE (VB02) AND SETTLE THE ACCOUNT PARTIALLY.
I hope this will be of any help to you.
Praveen
In a simple way,
1. First you need to create a Rebate agreement.
2. Create condition record for rebate giving the rebate rate and accrual rate.
3. when the rebate relevent billing doc is generated, the rebate and accruals are determined and posted in a seperate GL account as a noted item - amount to be settled. Also it gets copied in the rebate agreement.
4. create settlement run using credit memo request and then credit memo to settle this amount with the customer.
Source : SAP-IMG

Rebate process impact

Hi Gurus,
We are introducing the rebate process newly for a company code in which other business process already implemented 3 years back. My worry is introducing the new rebate process will have any impact on the existing business processes or what are the steps that needs to be taken care before we go live. Can you please guide me on this.
Also one more thing presently for calcualting rebates they are using some other custom transactions.
Now by introducing the Rebates the existing process will be deactivated.
Regards,
Babs

Rebate processing is vary normal it will never impact your current business process.
In this we are making provision of some amount and once target is achieve by customer will pay that amount to that customer
Keep in mind all new conduction, new access sequence u have to create, provision g/l account to create,
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What is the use of provision account in vkoa t.code

Hi,
i have a doubt regarding in vkoa t.code there are G/L Accounts column and Provisions column what is the use of provision column and what is the difference between these two.
i am waiting for u r replies.
Thanks & Regards,
Kishore.

Hi,
'The provision account is only required if there are conditions that are relevant for accrual, for example, rebate conditions. If this is the case, account determination takes place in the billing document with the field'
In other words it will be used to store the valuue of a( for eg.,Rebate) condition type in a different GL a/c for the periodic calculation of the total value of the same cond.type...
chk this thread for more clarity on Accrual
Re: Rebate Accrual Rate
Reg
JJ
Edited by: Jagsap on Jul 10, 2009 1:03 PM

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While maintaining the condition value in PO, the below message displayed.
"Provision account key missing for condition type FRA1 in schema ZIMPOR"
Thanks and regards
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I am evaluating implementing rebate processing at my company. I would like to know if rebate processing has any capability for the following...
Customer X has a rebate program for 1% if they purchase 50,000 units of a group of materials.
In order to be eligble for the 1% on the 50,000, Customer X's purchases must include at least 3000 units of a specific material.
Any way to do this inside of one rebate agreement? My thought is you could set up one agreeement for 47000 not including the specific material and another for 3000 units for the specific material. If the rebate agreement for the 3000 units is met, then decide to settle the one for the 47000?
This is a common program we want to be able to address through rebate processing so i want to ensure it is feasible.
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A rebate group consists of materials to which you want to apply the same rebate. You can define rebate group in Customizing for Sales according to the need of the orgn. You can assign a material to a rebate group in the MMR: view- Sales, field- Rebate Grp. When you create a cond record, you must enter a settlement material.
Hope this can assist you.
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We have defined the condition type ZPFV for freight value & mentioning the same while creating po and in past we had prepared so many po by using this.
we hv not change any thing & today we are getting message " Provision account key missing for condition type ZPFV in schema ZUELOC"
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hi..
If the accrual is ticked in condition type in M/06, it should have an account key assigned to the condition type in the pricing procedure in M/08.
Go to your contion type ZPFV and check whether you have checked Accrual or not..
then go to ur pricing procedure ZUELOC and check the last two colums for your condito type i.e. Account Key and Accrual Key.
Maintain these..
try this if it works.
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Provision Account key missing for a conditon type

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pricing procedure is not working properly.. whille doing purchase order the system shows provision account key missing for freight condition type in pricing procedure... please give a solution....
regards
deepu

Hello Deepu,
Just Check in T.code : M/08 whether account key is maintained for freight condition type in your pricing procedure.
Specifically check for the freight condition type(s) which is having 'accrual' ticked in M/06 - control data 2.
If the accrual is ticked in condition type in M/06, it should have an account key assigned to the condition type in the pricing procedure in M/08.
Check the same and revert back.
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Rebate processes

sap gurus
pls clarify me about rebate processes and final settlement and manual accurulswith examples.

Dear Siva,
Final settlement
Use
When you carry out final settlement of a rebate agreement, the system automatically
calculates the rebate based on the sales volume statistics or the lump sum
deducts any previously paid rebates
It then creates a credit memo request, and proposes the end date of the agreement validity period as the billing date.
The system also reverses any accruals that have been posted.
Depending on Customizing, when the system creates a credit memo request, the document is automatically blocked for billing. After approving the credit memo request, the person responsible can remove the billing block. You can then create the final credit memo.
When you want to search for credit memo requests during sales order processing, you can use the matchcode F "Credit memo request for rebate".
You can carry out final settlement of rebate agreements
automatically
Manually
as a background task (in batch)
Settling Single Rebate Agreements
You can carry out settlement directly from within a rebate agreement.
Before you save the rebate agreement you can still carry out changes to the credit memo request:
The credit memo request is only saved when you save the rebate agreement.
Carrying out Final Settlement as a Background Task
If the volume of your sales rebate processing is high, you can collectively process rebate settlements as a background task.
The following reports are available:
RV15C001
RV15C002
Your system administrator can use these reports to generate a list of rebate agreements, based on various selection criteria, such as rebate recipient, status of the agreement, and so on.
Background processing can then be carried out later. I.e., after the regular posting periods.
After a list is generated, the rebate agreements can be analyzed or processed for payment.
For more information about settling rebates as a background task, see your system administrator.
Working with Manual Accruals
Use
Posting accruals manually can be useful in different situations such as:
Lump sum payments
Accruals correction
You can control at which time and for which amount the accruals should be posted.
You can build accruals for a particular condition record or reverse them in part or in full.
When you save the rebate agreement, the system will automatically create a credit memo request. The system uses this document to create a credit memo. When the credit memo is released, the accruals are posted to FI.
If you have posted accruals manually, but these have not been passed on to financial accounting, the manual accruals and manual payments in the rebate agreement are blocked.
I hope it will help you,
Regards,
Murali.

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What impact would be on accounting documents? Pl.Help with detail information.
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Hello friends,
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I would like to know the process/settings in the rebate processing in which , if we have to issue the debit note to the customer, what would be steps involved.
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Hi
I feel in real time this process may not applicable, rebate process nothing but a kind of discount, which avail to the customer in the future.
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