Receivere Dtermination step in BPM
Hi Everybody,
I m doing a scenario (multicast-multiple receiver) in which i have to use receiver determination steps in our BPM design. My scenario:
service -> BPM ->service
R3 systems(RFC communication)
Here BPM will be used to do synchronous communication with R3 systems.
My BPM design is :
receiver->recever determination->Block(for each)->send(synchronous to communicate with R3)->send(to send to the service)
PROBLEM: my receiver determination is not able to recognise R3 system.
In the message of receiver determination step i can give only container of asynchronous interface(there is no container for synchronous message).
During config time i have created receiver determination with outbound interface of synchronous message.
here i have to use receiver determination step in BPM (because i m working on it).
Please suggest the appropriate way to solve the problem.
Thanks
sandeep
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/43/6211b11c895f6ce10000000a1553f6/content.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/14/d5283fd0ca8443e10000000a114084/content.htm
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