Recovering for a archive gap

Hi All,
Using Oracle 11gR2 on RHEL 5.6. My Primary and Standby had different locations for datafiles and redolog files.
Since the Standby has a big gap with the Primary due to a network outage, plan to do an incremental rollforward.
Previously I have done a rollforward where file locations were same with no issues.
Intend to follow the steps as in http://docs.oracle.com/cd/B19306_01/server.102/b14239/scenarios.htm#CIHIAADC.
Now as per above Oracle reference why do I need to do ; I have already used earlier db_file_name_convert, log_file_name_convert in my pfile to create the DG.
1. remove all online logs/standby logs in standby directories
2. Standby – Clear all standby redo logs
If I need to do then will the above files be created automatically when I start the MRP?
Pleas advise ..

mseberg wrote:
OK.
First off you have a setup problem if your archive log are no longer on your primary. If RMAN removed them you should configure it to APPLIED on STANDBY.
RMAN> configure archivelog deletion policy to applied on standby;Do I have to set this on Primary and Standby both ?
I answered your question because I have dealt with some large gaps. However I have not done what you are trying. My friend CKPT has this excellent document :
RMAN Incremental Backups to Roll Forward a Physical Standby Database
http://www.oracle-ckpt.com/category/dataguard/page/6/
Have cheked the link earlier, it doesn't refer to my situation. My file locations/mount points are different.
If my MRP is stopped and I delete my standby and online redo logs in Standby. Then will it create automatically in Standby based on the control file restored when I start my managed recovery? This step is as per my first link.

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==================
set pages 300
set lines 120
ALTER SESSION SET nls_date_format='DD-MON-YYYY HH24:MI:SS';
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I have noticied that there are two entries for each archive log. Why this is so...?Mseberg already mentioned.. little in detail as below
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