Referenced sub process mapping

Hi,
is there an easy way to map a data context of the parent process as input of a referenced sub process?
The only way I know is to create a new event trigger in the sub process and define a service interface with an XSD schema definition and so on...
It doesn't seem to be straight forward, worse if I have several sub processes!
Best regards,
Kevin

Hello Kevin,
i hope you are yet watching this thread.
Do you now have another solution for mapping data context to a sub process?
We have a "dispatcher"-process, which calls the different versions of a main process and need to map the data from the dispatcher to the different processes.
Thanks in advance,
Martin

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