Remain useful life depreciation recalculation

<our system setting>
1.base method (TCODE : AFAMA)
   dep. method : Stated percentage
2.Multi-Level Method (TCODE : AFAMS)
   9999 999 12 01 25% rem.life(no check) 0%
ex)
asset acq date : 2009.03.10
asset acq amount : 48,000
aseet useful life : 4 years (48 months)
add asset amount : 2011.01.03 48,000
now deprecication
no     year-month     depreciation amount
1        2009.03            1,000
2        2009.04            1,000
3        2009.05            1,000
4        2009.06            1,000
5        2009.07            1,000
6        2009.08            1,000
7        2009.09            1,000
8        2009.10            1,000
9        2009.11            1,000
10      2009.12            1,000
11      2010.01            1,000
12      2010.02            1,000
13      2010.03            1,000
14      2010.04            1,000
15      2010.05            1,000
16      2010.06            1,000
17      2010.07            1,000
18      2010.08            1,000
19      2010.09            1,000
20      2010.10            1,000
21      2010.11            1,000
22      2010.12            1,000
23      2011.01            2,000   ==> add 48,000
24      2011.02            2,000
25      2011.03            2,000
26      2011.04            2,000
27      2011.05            2,000
28      2011.06            2,000
29      2011.07            2,000
30      2011.08            2,000
31      2011.09            2,000
32      2011.10            2,000
33      2011.11            2,000
34      2011.12            2,000
35      2012.01            2,000
36      2012.02            2,000
37      2012.03            2,000
38      2012.04            2,000
39      2012.05            2,000
40      2012.06            2,000
41      2012.07            2,000
42      2012.08            2,000
43      2012.09            2,000
44      2012.10            2,000
45      2012.11            2,000
46      2012.12            2,000
47      2013.01            2,000
48      2013.02            2,000
<= end useful life ================================>
49      2009.03            2,000
50      2009.04            2,000
51      2009.05            2,000
52      2009.06            2,000
53      2009.07            2,000
54      2009.08            2,000
55      2009.09            2,000
56      2009.10            2,000
57      2009.11            2,000
58      2009.12            2,000
59      2010.01            2,000
2000 = acquisition value(96,000) * 25% / 12
I want deprecication
no   year-month   depreciation amount
1        2009.03            1,000
2        2009.04            1,000
3        2009.05            1,000
4        2009.06            1,000
5        2009.07            1,000
6        2009.08            1,000
7        2009.09            1,000
8        2009.10            1,000
9        2009.11            1,000
10      2009.12            1,000
11      2010.01            1,000
12      2010.02            1,000
13      2010.03            1,000
14      2010.04            1,000
15      2010.05            1,000
16      2010.06            1,000
17      2010.07            1,000
18      2010.08            1,000
19      2010.09            1,000
20      2010.10            1,000
21      2010.11            1,000
22      2010.12            1,000
23      2011.01            2,846   ==> add 48,000
24      2011.02            2,846
25      2011.03            2,846
26      2011.04            2,846
27      2011.05            2,846
28      2011.06            2,846
29      2011.07            2,846
30      2011.08            2,846
31      2011.09            2,846
32      2011.10            2,846
33      2011.11            2,846
34      2011.12            2,846
35      2012.01            2,846
36      2012.02            2,846
37      2012.03            2,846
38      2012.04            2,846
39      2012.05            2,846
40      2012.06            2,846
41      2012.07            2,846
42      2012.08            2,846
43      2012.09            2,846
44      2012.10            2,846
45      2012.11            2,846
46      2012.12            2,846
47      2013.01            2,846
48      2013.02            2,850
<= end useful life ================================>
2,846 = Net book value(96,000 - 22,000) / remain useful life(26)
so i changed setting
2.Multi-Level Method
   9999 999 12 24(changed) 25% rem.life(changed check) 0%
but depreciation amount is not 2,846.
Edited by: soon hong kwon on Nov 21, 2011 7:49 AM

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