Replacement 17 inch Review (week 33)

Just wanted to let you know that my week 33 17 incher is actually really well built. So far so good. It looks good, no warping and no uneven display like my previous. THe latches work as they should and I have no whine on battery. Although I have a low hiss on AC. But that's fine. Almost all my 17's have had the hiss on AC
Anyone care to comment on their 17? Or have any questions?

My 17-inch MBP is also very nice. I've had no issues: display lies flat, latch works nicely, screen is evenly lit (for the most part), no whine on battery, etc.
However, I do hear the faint hiss on AC power as others have described. It's barely audible in a quiet room, though, so I really have no complaints. Not sure what all the fuss is about, or maybe I just got lucky?

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    One of the longest and most enduring brands in computers is Thinkpad.  Originally developed by IBM in the USA, Thinkpad notebook computers are now manufactured by the Chinese company Lenovo.  The W series debuted in 2009 as the highest-end Thinkpads offered.  They came with the same patented Thinkpad technologies, such as an internal rollcage and shock-mounted hard drives.  However, they also offered competitive workstation-class graphics cards with drivers optimized for professional graphics work. 
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    Screen
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    Keyboard, Touchpad, and Trackpoint
    The keyboard is new for this year’s Thinkpads, and even though it loses a row of function keys, it retains the comfort and ease of typing found on previous Thinkpad keyboards.  The keys have adequate travel and typing is an effortless experience.  I find myself making significantly less typing mistakes due to accidental keypresses or overlaps while using the W530 than with most other computers that I’ve used.  And it comes with an additional bonus: the new keyboard, unlike the previous one, is backlit.  The backlighting is customizable in three steps: low backlight, high backlight, and Thinklight, a small light built into the lid that shines down on the keyboard area.  Personally, I find the Thinklight somewhat distracting, since it highlights my hands much more effectively than it highlights the keys underneath them.  However, the keyboard backlighting is done very well and allows for easy key identification in any lighting conditions. 
    The touchpad is textured, and easily accommodates multitouch gestures.  However, I prefer smooth touchpads and the one on the W530 does not seem as responsive as some of the Asus touchpads I’ve used.  For most gaming or other situations where precise control is needed, I would elect for an external mouse.  However, in its favor, the W530 has dedicated touchpad buttons – two sets, no less!  Another of my personal preferences is that I abhore clickpads.  As an example, I find using Macbook Pros to be annoying due to the fact that you need to press down on the whole clickpad in order to register an action.  The twin sets of left and right click buttons on the W530 are easy to press and responsive. 
    Additionally, since this is a Thinkpad, it contains a little round nub between the G and H keys that allows for alternate cursor control.  It’s called a trackpoint, and is one of the IBM-patented features that is found in a number of business notebooks today.  I very rarely use this while websurfing or working with productivity applications, but I found it to be significantly more useful than the touchpad while playing Portal 2 and I ended up using the trackpoint throughout the game. 
    Connections
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    The W530 comes with an Nvidia Quadro K2000M and uses Nvidia’s Optimus graphics switching to go between the dedicated graphics and the integrated Intel 4000 graphics, according to program need.  In my experience, Optimus seems to switch graphics adapters in a logical manner according to program need, but in the case that it chooses the wrong graphics adapter for the program you need, you can set up program-specific preferences to use either integrated or dedicated graphics as desired.  The K2000M is based on Nvidia’s Kepler architecture and 28nm process technology.  As a professional GPU, it is aimed more at content creation than content consumption.  Still, the K2000M is a capable midrange graphics card, able to play all the latest games at medium-high settings.  The K2000M has comparable performance to the Fermi-based 560M and is a little bit less powerful than the Kepler-based 650M.  Portal 2 can be played at fluid framerates at native resolution and maximum settings.  Starcraft 2 is playable on native resolution at maximum settings, but some more demanding sections are not fluid (30+ FPS), so I lowered to high settings and everything runs smoothly.  Civilization 5 runs smoothly at medium-high settings, and Dragon Age: Origins works well at near maximum settings, all on native resolution.  The system scores right around 2000 points in 3DMark 11, varying from 1970 to 2053. 
    The Samsung 830 SSD contributes a lot toward making the system feel fast.  The system boots in approximately 32 seconds from pressing the power button to everything loaded in the Windows desktop and shuts down in 14 seconds.  On battery power, these numbers rise slightly with 45 seconds to start and 17 seconds to shut down.  The SSD also allows for higher scores in PCMark 7.  And speaking of PCMark 7, I experienced a curious thing when running the benchmark multiple times on two different W530 units.  The first W530 provided a very respectable top score of 4910 in the benchmark, which is roughly the same as scores by the new Retina Macbook Pro.  However, the second W530 on which I ran the benchmark netted a score of 6765, which is, as of the date of this review,  the highest score among systems with the Intel Core i7 3720QM processor. 
    Audio
    The W530 comes with Dolby Home Theater v4, which allows music and video to sound quite good.  There are three presets as well as a graphic equalizer that comes with the software.  While bass is lacking compared to any dedicated speakers, this is a common situation in notebooks and bass in the W530 is better than most.  Overall, the W530 has very acceptable audio at reasonable volume. 
    Heat and Noise
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    Battery Life
    My W530 came with a 9-cell battery rated for 94 Watt-hours.  While playing games such as Starcraft 2, the battery lasts approximately 2 hours.  Playing DVDs at full brightness with the K2000M resulted in approximately 4 hours of battery life.  Web surfing at half brightness results in 7-8 hours battery life, depending on surfing habits.  And very light web surfing, note taking, and word processing at half brightness results in 9 hours of battery life.  That number can be extended all the way up to 11 hours at minimum brightness.  Basically, the W530 can last an entire business day unplugged as long as it was not needed for anything very resource-intensive. 
    Customer Service, Support, Repair and Replacement
    Typically, a review would not include a section on support.  However, something happened to my initial W530 unit and I can provide a perspective on Lenovo’s support experience.  The problem that developed was a failure of the Intel 4000 integrated graphics.  All other systems and components, including the quad-core processing cores on the i7-3720QM, worked fine.  However, running only on the Nvidia graphics caused the battery life to be affected (6 hours maximum, compared to 11 hours maximum running on Intel graphics), and so I called Lenovo.  The service tech to whom I spoke remoted into my computer and looked at the recent Windows updates I had downloaded.  He suggested that I restore to an earlier point prior to the Windows updates, and if that did not work, to call back and Lenovo would fix it.  Needless to say, it did not work and I called back.  The service rep sent a box for the computer to be sent to the EasyServ repair depot. 
    I sent the box out the following day with my computer, and did not see my system again for over a month.  The online status listings for my system changed from “being repaired” to “waiting for customer information” at least 4 times during that period.  Since I was frequently checking the status in hope that my computer would be repaired and sent back to me quickly, I called Lenovo whenever I saw that the status was “waiting for customer information.”  As a result, I was able to follow along with the story of how my computer’s repair was progressing.  It went something like this:  First, the techs re-imaged my hard drive (I sent the machine back with all the original parts, keeping my upgrades until I got it back).  That did not fix the issue (which I could have told them, since I tried using different drives myself before calling Lenovo) and led to the first “hold for customer information.”  At no point during any of these holds did they actually need any information from me, but it seems to be the universal code they chose to use for “waiting for [whatever].”  First, they were waiting to escalate it to a higher level tech.  Then, I was told I needed a new motherboard and they were waiting on the new board.  Then, I was told that the new motherboard did not work and they were referring the system to a design team.  Then, the design team discovered that they shipped and installed the wrong new motherboard and it needed a different one.  Then, I was told that the different new motherboard was backordered and it would take longer to arrive. 
    During the first four weeks that they had my system, I called Lenovo maybe six or seven times, and they did not call me once.  The situation was rather frustrating.  However, after approximately four weeks, one of the service reps gave me the phone number of a specific employee, who informed me that since my repair had taken so long, Lenovo was going to replace my computer.  He said a member of Lenovo’s Executive Replacement Team would call me to set up the replacement.  A week later, I was able to talk to the Executive Replacement Team member, who confirmed the specifications of my unit and said the replacement computer would arrive in 2-3 weeks.  Two days later, I got my original computer back from the depot.  Thankfully, I was then able to use the original system until the new one arrived.  Now, I am typing this review on the new system and everything works well. 
    Lenovo’s customer service staff were unexceptionally friendly and helpful.  I spoke to a number of them, and each and every one was courteous and willing to help.  Lenovo’s replacement staff were also easy to talk to, responsive, and effective.  The EZServ repair techs, however, appear to leave something to be desired.  I bought a 3 year warranty , including Thinkpad Protection and on-site service.  If anything goes wrong again with my Thinkpad, I am going to insist on the on-site service option. 
    Value & Recommendation
    The Lenovo Thinkpad W530 is a well-built notebook with very good performance, thermal design, and battery life.  Very few computers manage all of these together, and the down side of the W530 is price: it is more expensive than other systems with similar performance.  Still, I believe the extra price is justified by what the computer delivers: a solid system with no compromises. 
    You should buy one too if:
    You want a system that will last a number of years
    You need a combination of excellent performance and excellent battery life
    Consider something else if:
    You’re on a strict budget and want the most performance for the money
    You want a computer with a style that will turn heads
    Thinkpad W530, i7-3720QM, 1920x1080 screen, 32GB RAM, dual SSDs (Samsung 830, Crucial M4 mSATA), Quadro K2000M, 9-cell battery, DVD burner, backlit keyboard, Bluetooth, Intel 6300 wireless card

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    Thinkpad W530, i7-3720QM, 1920x1080 screen, 32GB RAM, dual SSDs (Samsung 830, Crucial M4 mSATA), Quadro K2000M, 9-cell battery, DVD burner, backlit keyboard, Bluetooth, Intel 6300 wireless card

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