Reporting on Operation Level costing / Operational Account assignment data

Hi folks,
Please can anyone here with experience in dealing with extracting Operation Level costing (OLC) / Operational Account assignment (OAA) data for Maintenance Orders share their experience.
We have done some basic checking around this and Account assignment at activity level has been enabled. Been trying to use 0PM_OM_OPA_2 extractor to get this Operational Account assignment data but no luck.
Perhaps PM Consultants familiar with OLC/OAA solution can help answer this. What are the tables to look at for getting to this Operational Account assignment data?
Any clues will be appreciated.Thanks for your help!

Ravi,
transactions IW40N and IW49N.
Adilson

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