Route Determination and Shipping Point

Hi,
In what way Route Determination and Shipping Point are connected.
advise please.
thanks

Simon,
The country and transportation zone of the Shipping point is also considered for determination of Route in sales order and also for redetermining it in delivery.
The system can automatically determine a route for each item during order entry. If visit lists/plans underlie order entry the system uses the routes from the visit lists/plans. If no visit lists/plans exist, the system performs standard route determination. The following criteria affect route determination in an order:
·        Country and transportation zone of the shipping point (departure zone)
·        Shipping condition
·        Transportation group of the material
·        Country and transportation zone of the ship-to party
the system is to perform standard route determination in the delivery again, it also takes into account the weight group (weight of entire delivery). The system saves the delivery route in the delivery header. As it is saved in the document header the route applies to the whole delivery
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sap gurus,
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Balaji...
U can get the plant in sales order, by doing the default the same in customer master or in material master. In customer master -- sales are data--shipping tab delivering plant there u can assign and get the same in order for that customer. it is better to do in customer master rather than in material master.
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Can any one tell me wt is the relation between Sales Org and Shipping point?
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Hi Ravi,
There is no direct relation.
Sales organisation in broader level, it is responsible for selling a product in a company.
It is liable to the customer interms of service of the product or service and confirmation of the sale order, delivery and invoicing.
Shipping Point is a logical point from where the shipment / dispatch begins.
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take VTTK-TPLST field and do compare with TTDS-TPLST ,get the adrnr field from TTDS Table ,do compare with ADRC Table,here you will get address.
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An order was created and subsequenty delivered and invoiced. Later on the goods were returned.
The problem which occured is that the return order have plant A and shipping point B, which are in no way connected to each other. There is no configuration done to attach this two, still the order got created.
I wanted to know even if plant and shipping point is different, can a order be created and saved.
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yes Satish
this is possible, take a scenario, suppose one company is having 3 plants A,B,C with shipping point A1,B1,AND C1 respectively. But the requirement is such that they will collect the material from plant A and deliver it form B1 shiiping point which is linked with plant B.
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As a standard process we have copied the plants and shipping points in the development client and i have deleted the default shipping point and assigned the newly defined shipping point.I have forgotten to assign one plant and shipping point and i have even deleted the default shipping point.Now i have to assign the plant x to the shipping point x where i am not able to find the plant in the ovxc screen.Is there any way to find the missing plant or i have to delete all the assignments and reassign again.
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1) Check in OX10 whether you could see that plant
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my simple question is, what is the relation between plant and shipping point ?
in book i read, it is many to many,
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Hi Hegal . K . Charles,
it is correct, as we discussed above it may be MANY to MANY .
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as you said it is correct, It is just not to overload the master data maintenance
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Shipping point is determined at Header level or item level of Sales order?
How about Plant??
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Both Shipping point & Plant are determined for each Item in the Sales order automatically by the system.
For determining Plant, system first search the CMIR,
if not found the Plant there or CMIR is maintained then system searches Customer master of the SH, i
f here also not found then system sarches the Material master.
This is called Priority rule which is hard coded in SAP and can be changed by customisation.
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1. Shipping condition (first check Sales doc type , if not found then takes from Customer master of SP)
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The system can propose route automatically via customizing.If alternative values are defined for your system you can change route manually in the delivery.It also depends on weight group(if product unit is weight) and configuration of delivery type(T-code-OVLK) for redetermination of route.
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Departure zone of shipping pointShipping conditionTransportation Group+Transportation Zone of ship-to-party.
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my business requirement is to change the Ship- to address while creating the sales order . Due to this my taxes and shipping/plant data get re determined . The order type i am using triggers to planned order and availability check .
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and I am not sure, where we define transport vendor per route. Right now, I dont have access to SAP and hence, am unable to confirm this. In fact, one route can have en number of vendors. When we create a shipment document, you can key in manually the transport vendor which also depends on your shipment type configuration where for the field "Copy routine", whatever assignment is made, based on that system will fetch the data.
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Please go through this document it will help you
1) Maintain transportation planning point through Menu as follows:
IMG Maintain Logistic Execution  Definition Enterprise Structure  transportation planning point.
Create your own like BP01 enter the general data¡¯s required
2) Defining modes of transport:
IMG RoutesBasic Transportation Functions  Transportation Logistic Execution Define modes of transportDefine routes
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Shipping type: 01
Description: Road
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Basic Transportation Transportation Logistic ExecutionIMG Define shipping types Route Functions
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PT: 01
Description: Truck
Mdtr: 01
STPG: 0001
4) Define transportation connecting point :
LogisticIMG DefineRoutes  Basic Transportation Functions  Transportation Execution Define transportation connection pointsroutes
Copy the std point and make it FB01 as departure zone and FB02 as destination zone
5) Define routes and stages.
 Logistic Execution IMG Define Define routes Routes  Basic Transportation Functions Transportation routes and stages
Use the standard route and copy it as FB0001 and enter the departure zone and destination as what we created.
6) Defining Transportation Zone:
Basic Transportation Logistic Execution IMG Define transportation Router determination  Route Transportation Functions zones
Use the standard transportation zone depending on the route so as for the example use 0000000003 - Southern Region
7) Maintain country or transportation zone for shipping points
 Logistic Execution IMG  Route determination  Route  Basic Transportation Functions Transportation Maintain country and transportation zone for shipping point
Shipping point be ASH1 and route as 0000000003 which is assigned to country India
8) Maintain route determination:
Logistic ExecutionIMG Route determination Route  Basic Transportation Functions  Transportation  Maintain route determination
Country of departure: India
Departure Zone: 0000000003
Country of destination: India
Destination Zone: 0000000003
And enter the datas needed like shipping condition 01, etc.
Maintain Transportation relevance for shipping point, sales document type and delivery types.
9) Now create shipping types
IMG Define shipment Shipments  Transportation Logistic Execution types
Copy the standard 0001 and make it to AFIL
10) Define and assign traffic zones through T-Code: T_76 (or) thru menu as follows
IMG Define Basic functions  Shipments cost  Transportation Logistic Execution and assign tariff zones
Copy the standard and make it to FABTARIFF and assign our transportation planning point as ATP1, ATP2 assign tariff zone to every particular transportation planning point
11) Define and assign pricing procedures
Shipments Transportation  Logistic Execution IMG define and assign pricing Price control  Pricing cost procedures
Copy the standard shipping cost pricing procedure SDFC00 to FBSC01
12) Assign purchasing data:
 Logistic Execution IMG Assign purchasing data Settlement  Shipments cost Transportation
13) Assign transportation planning point to shipping condition, purchase organization, purchasing group and to plants.
14) Define Automatic G/L account determination:
 Transportation  Logistics Execution IMG Automatic G/L Account Determination Settlement Shipment Costs
Or through T-code: OMWB
Use G/L account 614000 as used in standard
15) Automatic determination of CO assignments:
IMG Automatic Settlement  Shipment Costs  Transportation Logistics Execution Determination of CO Assignments
Or T-code: OKB9
16) Maintain shipping point address.
 Logistics Execution  Definition Enterprise Structure Define, copy, delete, check shipping point
17) Creating G/L account centrally.
Financial AccountingAccounting  Master Records  General Ledger 
Individual Processing Centrally
Or through T-Code: FS00
18) Enter the G/L account 614000 to the company code AFIL
19) Create transportation condition records:
 Shipment cost  Transportation  Master data Logistic Execution createPrices
Or thru T-code: TK11
Enter condition type FB00 that is freight condition type, which is used as standard in the shipping cost pricing procedure.
Enter the price and save it
Process:
1. The system determines the pricing procedure for the shipment cost item-using transportation planning point, service agent and shipment cost item category
2. Calculation Basis
3. Condition Record
4. Access sequence.
For the sales order, create a delivery using VL01N and pick the goods. Now create a shipment using VT01N and assign the delivery to the shipment document. Make sure to enter the carrier and other details before performing the transportation planning and execution. Save the shipment document and PGI for the delivery would be done automatically.
A shipment represents a physical goods movement between two or more locations.
For the system to create a shipment, shipping-relevant deliveries must exist.
You use Transportation Planning to group pending deliveries into shipments and then to perform the shipments.
The outbound delivery documents contain routes that the system calculates in route determination, and a transportation planning date for the delivery.
Dynamic transportation planning is responsible for grouping together outbound deliveries into shipments that have at least the same route, visit plan type and the same transportation planning date.
The following restrictions can be taken into account for a shipment in Dynamic Transportation Planning:
Weight
Volume
Variable capacity
Number of stops
Maximum duration
Loading units
Create Shipment Document
Use
After the status of the delivery is open for transportation planning, it is possible to create a shipment document to schedule the transportation.
Transportation Create Single document Logistics Logistic Execution  TransportationPlanning
T.code: VT01n
Enter your transportation planning point and shipment type. Press enter.
Creating the shipment cost document
Use
After the deliveries are scheduled by shipment and the shipment is executed, now it is time to maintain and close the shipment document in order to record all relative information and ready for the shipment cost settlement.
Single document Logistics Logistic Execution  Transportation Shipment cost Create
T.code: VI01.
After creation of shipment cost doc. You settle the Shipment cost.
Go to VI02, enter shipment cost no.and press enter.
Then go to Overview -- Fright cost items, Select the line item and double click it.
Go as main menu: Item --> Acc. assignment, you enter G/L acc. and cost center to which the transportation cost will be posted.
On the Standard change, details Freight cost items screen, then check the check box Transfer, which means you will transfer the relative transportation cost to FI/CO, in this case, the system should determined which Purchase Order will used to settle the cost, so after you check the Transfer check box.
Press save button on the current screen.
Shipment cost settlement and documents:
Use
After the shipment cost settled in shipment cost document, it has the following affects:
It creates a service entry sheet that refers to the purchase order determined.
It posts acceptance of services performed.
It creates an accounting document for the accruals.
Further subsequent documents are created in FI.
Create Delivery:
T.code: Vl01n
Create TO:
T.code: LT03
Create Shipment Document
Use
After the status of the delivery is open for transportation planning, it is possible to create a shipment document to schedule the transportation.
 Transportation Planning  Create Single document Logistics Logistic Execution Transportation
T.code: VT01n
Enter your transportation planning point and shipment type. Press enter.
Creating the shipment cost document
Use
After the deliveries are scheduled by shipment and the shipment is executed, now it is time to maintain and close the shipment document in order to record all relative information and ready for the shipment cost settlement.
Single document Logistics Logistic Execution  Transportation Shipment cost Create
T.code: VI01.
After creation of shipment cost doc. You settle the Shipment cost.
Go to VI02, enter shipment cost no.and press enter.
Then go to Overview -- Fright cost items, Select the line item and double click it.
Go as main menu: Item --> Acc. assignment, you enter G/L acc. and cost center to which the transportation cost will be posted.
On the Standard change, details Freight cost items screen, then check the check box Transfer, which means you will transfer the relative transportation cost to FI/CO, in this case, the system should determined which Purchase Order will used to settle the cost, so after you check the Transfer check box.
Press save button on the current screen.
Shipment cost settlement and documents:
Use
After the shipment cost settled in shipment cost document, it has the following affects:
It creates a service entry sheet that refers to the purchase order determined.
It posts acceptance of services performed.
It creates an accounting document for the accruals.
Further subsequent documents are created in FI.
Generally process is-
1) VL01N
2) VT01
3) VL02N - PGI
4) VI01
5) ML81N Service Entry Sheet
6) MIRO Invoice Verification
Shipping docs (VT01) are created before PGI...
You cannot carry out transportation planning or creation of shipment after the goods issue has been executed. Once goods issue is done it means that the material has left your premises so there is no need for a transportation planning after it.
In case you need carry out the shipment documents at the end of the day you could just create the delivery documents during the day and at end of the day create the shipment documents and the goods issue
This link is also usseful:
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/LETRA/SDTRA.pdf
Hope this helps you.
Regards
nitin

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Best Regards

Hi
The shipping point will be determined on the basis of shipping condition, loading group and the delivering plant.
The storage location dependent shipping point determination is used only in delivery documents and not in sales orders (Assign Shipping Points According to Storage Location).
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