Route Determination and Carrier

I have been assigned to a project in which I need to set up route determination for all customers. I have reviewed the documentation carefully, and understand the high-level configuration that is necessary. However, one item I cannot seem to find is how route determination can specify a carrier to be used for the shipment.
For the majority of our customers, we don't have specific routes with different legs, we simply have weight groups which determine the carrier we will use. For example, for customer ABC, if the weight of the delivery is between 1-20lbs, we will use Fedex Air, and if the weight is 20lbs+ we will use Fedex Ground. Another customer could have a totally different set of weight limits and carrier(s) they would like to use. We do have a few customers who would like to specify the specific physical route the shipment should take (east coast to midwest, then down to the south, or something like that).
For the first type (by weight) I understand that I can set up weight groups which will help derive the route, but I do not want the route to just equal the carrier. Instead, we would like to use route determination to help us determine both the route (physical legs in the trip [likely to be defaulted to a general route for most customers, but leaving the solution open for the future]), and the carrier, which would likely be placed as the Forwarding Agent.
Sorry for the long explanation, but if you have any suggestions, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

Routes will be determined either by
a) Origin Country and Destination Country (with or without weight group) or
b) by Delivery Type
and I am not sure, where we define transport vendor per route. Right now, I dont have access to SAP and hence, am unable to confirm this. In fact, one route can have en number of vendors. When we create a shipment document, you can key in manually the transport vendor which also depends on your shipment type configuration where for the field "Copy routine", whatever assignment is made, based on that system will fetch the data.
This being the case, you can very well manually key in the required transport vendor in VT01N.
thanks
G. Lakshmipathi

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Simon,
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/dd/5607da545a11d1a7020000e829fd11/content.htm
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Hi Experts,
I would like to ask how to set up route fro deliveries and Stock transport orders.
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Working with Route Schedules
Use
Using a route schedule, you can control periodic customer deliveries of a particular shipping point to different ship-to parties (for example, customers or stores) in a certain sequence on a certain defined route. The planning is based on calendar weeks. The period unit is a day. Also, route schedules have a goods issue time.
The route schedule function supports the following processes:
Periodic deliveries from a shipping point to stores or customers are planned in advance on the basis of calendar weeks and weekdays, also without reference to particular deliveries.
You adapt the schedules in the specific cases to the planning. For example, you can plan a GI date for a Monday at 8 oclock, without knowing the exact date or the delivery.
On the basis of this planning, deliveries that are to leave the warehouse at the same time are combined into groups. In Shipping you can thus distribute the workload by processing these groups.
Features
You can display all deliveries for a particular route schedule on a particular day, for a particular shipping point, and so on. In this way, for example, you can choose picking lists on the basis of route schedules.
You can create route schedules for the following documents:
Sales orders
Stock transfer orders
Deliveries that are based on sales orders, store orders, stock allocations, stock transfer orders, and deliveries without reference.
The route schedule is displayed in the header data of the delivery. For each delivery within the route, the system prints the expected date and the expected time of the delivery (on the basis of the local time at the original shipping point) on the delivery note; the goods issue date is used for the goods issue posting and the stock valuation.
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At the same time it is possible to control the route schedule determination for each delivery type, stock transfer order, and order type. It is activated in the same manner as the repeated route determination. If the route schedule determination for a delivery is active, the system automatically attempts, during creation or change of a delivery, to determine a route schedule and records this in the delivery. Simultaneously, the scheduling is adjusted. All the deadlines, for example, the transportation planning time, the picking time, the loading time, the goods issue time, and the delivery time can change.
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Route Schedule Determination
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For each combination of requirements for the route schedule determination, you can define several route schedules.
In the case of a delivery without a preceding document, the system determines the route schedule with the earliest delivery time at the ship-to party.
In the case of deliveries based on preceding documents (for example, stock transfer orders), the system searches for the route schedule that is nearest to the planned date/time of the delivery. The system uses the following search algorithm:
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- If there is no route schedule for the time specified, the system searches for the previous route schedule up to the GI time.
- If there is no route schedule from the GI time to the planned time, the system searches for the next route schedule in the future and assigns this to the delivery.
Requirements for Route Schedules
The route schedules are determined by the following conditions:
· Shipping point
Where are the goods coming from?
Ship-to party and unloading point
Where are the goods going to?
Shipping condition
How are the goods being shipped?
Transportation group
Which goods are shipped?
® For example, which type of goods?
Calendar week / year
When are the goods to be shipped?
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You can only use route schedules if you have maintained the working times and therefore at least one of the following times in minutes:
· Transportation planning time
· Pick/pack time
· Loading time
· Transit time
A route schedule can leave the warehouse exactly once in a week. If a route schedule runs several times, either on several days or several times a day, it must be copied to another route schedule.
Special schedules and public holiday weeks are possible.
Processing a Route Schedule
Implementation Options
Wholesale trade customers and stores can receive goods at regular intervals. These delivery rhythms have an influence on the workload in the warehouse. To help delivery planning, the route schedule serves as a tool for planning regular, repetitive customer deliveries on a particular route. At the time of planning, potential deliveries that have not yet been created are grouped in the route schedule. When the deliveries are created, the system can automatically determine a route schedule and assign it to the delivery. All deliveries with the same route schedule and the same date can be processed together in the shipping point. All these deliveries leave the shipping point together at a particular time. They are distributed along the same geographical route.
· Deliveries for route schedule MO10H leave the shipping on Mondays at 10:00 in the direction of Philadelphia.
· Deliveries for route schedule MO10M leave the shipping point on Mondays at 10:00 in the direction of Boston.
· Deliveries for route schedule MO10S leave the shipping point on Mondays at 10:00 in the direction of New York.
You can print picking lists for all deliveries that belong to route schedules MO10H - MO10S together.
Prerequisites
If you want to define route schedules, you must perform the following tasks:
- Activate the route determination
- Activate the delivery scheduling
- Activate the route schedule for your shipping point and make the following settings:
Transaction
Activity
Delivery
Route schedule determination for delivery type
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Route schedule determination for sales document type
Stock transfer order
Route schedule determination for delivery type
Set delivering plant and order type
Maintenance of the itinerary should be uniform for all the route schedules used. To ensure exact planning, maintain the itinerary for all the route schedules. If rough planning is sufficient in this case, you do not need to maintain the itinerary for a route schedule.
If you do not define any goods accepted times in the customer master for the unloading points of the ship-to party, the system assumes that the goods acceptance is possible at any time. The system determines the delivery time from the departure time in the route schedule plus the required traveling time to the ship-to party, as set in the itinerary (specific move time). This delivery time must be within the goods acceptance time of the unloading point of the ship-to party. If not, the respective route schedule is not determined during delivery creation.
For more information on route schedules, refer to the Implementation Guide (IMG) under Route Schedules.
Process Flow
Select the shipping point you are working for and enter the number of the route schedule.
Enter the data that defines the route schedule more exactly:
- Description of the route schedule
- Route
- Departure day (weekday)
- Departure time
You define the route schedule determination. When you create the delivery, the system can determine a route schedule on the basis of the following data:
- Shipping point
- Ship-to party
- Unloading point (if available)
- Shipping condition
- Transportation group
- (Optional) year/period
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You decide whether or not you wish to define the itinerary for this route schedule.
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Creating a Route Schedule
Choose Logistics ® Logistics Execution ® Master data ® Transportation ® Routes ® Route schedule ® Create.
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If you wish to use data from an existing route schedule as a reference, enter the respective shipping point and the number of that route schedule. If you also wish to copy the itinerary, check the Copy itinerary box.
Press ENTER .
The Create Route Schedule screen appears (here the system displays the number you just entered for the route schedule and the shipping point).
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Description of the route schedule
The respective route
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Departure time
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Ship-to party
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If the same route is planned for several route schedules, define for each of these route schedules the same itinerary that should correspond to the stages and legs of the route.
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I cannot maintain the route stage information Service Agent, shipping type, Distance, duration etc as all these are decided on the fly at the time of dispatch based on the weight volume of the material available for dispatch.
I get the message "Route 000001 has no valid legs" when I enter into the shipment, as I have not maintained the complete route information.
We have different phases in Shipment like Planning, Loading Start, Loading End.. could anyone plzzz explain me the use of these phases in shipment processing. Is it mandatory to maintain all these??
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Go to Transportation in the IMG there you go to Detail screen of the shipment type, in the detail screen of the shipment type there are fields called Adopt Route and Determine legs based on these fileds the legs (stages) will be dtermined in the shipment document.
Go through this link it is having details about automatic leg determination and manual stages creation in the shipment document.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/d5/2285347860ea35e10000009b38f83b/frameset.htm
For One more doubt.
You fallow these steps
-->You create condition table with the fields Shipment type you can get the shipment cost based on the shipment type.
I-->n the condition type you select calculation.type as 'R' Distence dependent assign the access sequence.
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-->Maintain pricing procedure and determine the procedure in the IMG.
You can get the simulation of the shipping cost at order level with out hitting the G/L account.Based on this you can select cheaper one.
Shipment Cost Information in the Order
As the shipment costs can make up a large proportion of the total cost of a product it is important and therefore recommended that you have a rough idea of the shipment costs when the order is created. As in normal situations no deliveries, shipments or shipment cost documents exist at this point, simulated versions of these can be "created" in the background to enable you to calculate shipment costs on the basis of these documents.
This means that you can estimate shipment costs. When you make the appropriate setting it is also possible to implement several calculations at the same time, in order, for example, to determine whether transport by lorry or by train would be cheaper or how much more it would cost to send by express delivery rather than by standard transport.
Integration
Shipment cost information is called up in SD order processing but uses the transportation and shipment cost processing functions.
Prerequisites
Shipment cost information in the order can only be used if the control parameters and master data for transportation and shipment cost processing have been maintained.
Features
To calculate shipment costs in the order you can define profiles for shipment cost information. The profile for shipment cost information contains default values for shipment cost information in the order, for example, the transportation planning point, transportation type and the shipment pricing procedure. The profile for shipment cost information is assigned to a sales document type (when defining the sales document types in Customizing for Sales and Distribution). If you do not want to carry out comparisons between the calculation methods, but just want to receive an estimated value for the shipment costs, then use the details from the profile for shipment cost information (transportation planning point, transport type, pricing procedure) and the data from the order (forwarding agent, route) for calculating shipment costs and the related simulated creation of transports.
-->If you do not assign a profile to the sales document type, you can also enter the transportation planning point, shipment type and service agent in the order.
To carry out a comparison of different calculation methods, you can assign one or more shipment planning profiles to a profile for shipment cost information. This planning profile is used to create shipments in collective processing, in order to store specific selection variants and data, which should always be used, in the memory. A planning profile determines how deliveries should be put together with shipments and which data should be put in the shipment documents. You can assign various planning profiles to the profile for shipment cost information, in order, for example, to compare whether it is cheaper to transport by train or by lorry. It is also possible to assign a planning profile for creating transportation chains.
If you begin the calculation of shipment costs in the sales document, the data that is used to simulate the putting together of the two types of transportation, is the data which is saved in the order and in the shipment costs profile, which is assigned to the corresponding sales document type. If the planning profile is assigned to the shipment cost type, this data is also used for the parallel calculation of shipment costs, so that it is possible to compare different transportation options.
Calling up Shipment Cost Information in the Order
Procedure
Choose Logistics ® Sales and distribution ® Sales.
Choose Order ® Create.
Enter all the data from your order and save the document.
Call up the document again by choosing Order ® Change.
In the order, choose Details ® Shipment cost information.
You reach the screen where the planning profiles are listed. In the first line, you always have the planning profile . In this line you see the default values from the shipment cost profile that is assigned to the respective sales document type.
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If you have assigned a shipment cost profile to the sales document type, and there are shipment planning profiles assigned to this shipment cost profile, then the system will list all the shipment planning profiles that are assigned to the shipment cost profile.
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In the column Net value, you see the values calculated by the system. If several planning profiles are assigned, you can have the system make comparisons. In the log, you can display the details of the simulated shipments. If you have problems with the calculations, you can check the reasons listed on the log.
I hope it will help you
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We are using third party sales order. The process flow is as follows.
Sales order -> Purchase requisition-> Purchase order-> Vendor ships material directly to customer.
Route is currently determinined based on the following:
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Dear Srini,
Welcome to SCN forum....
I find route determination for third party sales not logical. Just think in Third-Party Orders, theres is no Material-Movement and no Deliveries from our Plant;
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At present,i am using the plant 0001 and storage location 0001.It is determining the Route as 000001.When i changed it in STO to 000002.It is automatically coming back to old one.
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