Same Business system to two XI/PI landscapes and possibly two ESR's

Hello,
We are setting up a new PI 7 landscape in parallel to our current XI 3 landscape.
We do not foresee a migration of XI to PI in the short run so the two systems, XI and PI will run next to each other.
The problem we then have is with the ESR and proxies. The same business system must be able to connect to both XI and PI and must also be able to generate proxies with interface content from XI as well as with interface content from PI.
The connection from business system to ESR repository seems to be 1:1, only one ESR per business system (defined via SXMB_ADM)
Is there a way to allow ESR content from two XI/PI systems in one business system simultaneously?
How do we solve this issue?
Thanks
Tom

Hi Tom,
as you already said its 1:1 connection between ESR and business system. The connection is taken from the exchangeProfile, refer to [ABAP Proxy Generation on SAP help|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/14/555f3c482a7331e10000000a114084/content.htm].
I suggest you to create the interfaces in XI, generate the proxies and transport to PI.
How are you going to use the to integration servers for ABAP proxy scenarios? I am asking because you only can use one integration server at a time for outbound ABAP proxies in SAP standard. You define the URL or RFC destination to the corresponding integration server in SXMB_ADMIN.
Regards, Martin

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