SCCM 2012 R2 ADR issue with proxy authentication

Hi,
We're migrating SCCM 2007 to SCCM 2012 R2.
In SCCM 2007, the proxy server is configured with user authentication, and this works.
In SCCM 2012 R2, the Software Update Point is installed locally and connected with a local WSUS 4.0 (Server 2012)
We use a proxy with user authentication for Update Deployment. (This user is the same as configured in SCCM 2007.)
The Proxy Server is Blue Coat SG.
The proxy account is used for:
The Synchronization works, but Automatic Deployment Rule (ADR) doesn't work.
When an Automatic Deployment Rule is started, it tries to authenticate 3 times.
The Patchdownloader.log shows:
Trying to connect to the root\SMS namespace on the <servername> machine.        Software Updates Patch Downloader        11/8/2013
12:19:06        3608 (0x0E18)
Connected to
\\<servername>\root\SMS        Software Updates Patch Downloader        11/8/2013 12:19:06        3608
(0x0E18)
Trying to connect to the
\\<servername.domain>\root\sms\site_ECM namespace on the <servername.domain> machine.        Software Updates Patch Downloader        11/8/2013
12:19:06        3608 (0x0E18)
Connected to
\\<servername.domain>\root\sms\site_ECM        Software Updates Patch Downloader        11/8/2013 12:19:06        3608
(0x0E18)
Download destination =
\\<servername.domain>\dp_wks_ms_updates$\3208bb5e-bcd9-4389-a0c9-02ef33ccb998.1\XPSEPSC-x86-en-US.exe .        Software Updates Patch Downloader        11/8/2013 12:19:07        3608
(0x0E18)
Contentsource =
http://wsus.ds.www.download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3-19990518/cabpool/xpsepsc-x86-en-us_7ae70ca1330a099080c6c41c4d5b7f19b30dc0cd.exe .        Software Updates Patch Downloader        11/8/2013
12:19:07        3608 (0x0E18)
Downloading content for ContentID = 16819067, 
FileName = XPSEPSC-x86-en-US.exe.        Software Updates Patch Downloader        11/8/2013 12:19:07        3608 (0x0E18)
Try username <domain\ProxyAccount>        Software Updates Patch Downloader        11/8/2013 12:19:07        8364
(0x20AC)
Proxy enabled proxy server <proxyserver>:8080        Software Updates Patch Downloader        11/8/2013
12:19:07        8364 (0x20AC)
HttpSendRequest failed HTTP_STATUS_PROXY_AUTH_REQ        Software Updates Patch Downloader        11/8/2013
12:19:07        8364 (0x20AC)
Download
http://wsus.ds.www.download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3-19990518/cabpool/xpsepsc-x86-en-us_7ae70ca1330a099080c6c41c4d5b7f19b30dc0cd.exe to C:\Windows\TEMP\CAB6FD2.tmp returns 407        Software Updates
Patch Downloader        11/8/2013 12:19:07        8364 (0x20AC)
ERROR: DownloadContentFiles() failed with hr=0x80070197        Software Updates Patch Downloader        11/8/2013
12:19:07        3608 (0x0E18)
Then the proxy user account is locked:
Trying to connect to the root\SMS namespace on the <servername> machine.        Software Updates Patch Downloader        11/8/2013
12:20:11        3608 (0x0E18)
Connected to \\ <servername>\root\SMS        Software Updates Patch Downloader        11/8/2013
12:20:11        3608 (0x0E18)
Trying to connect to the
\\<servername.domain>\root\sms\site_ECM namespace on the <servername.domain> machine.        Software Updates Patch Downloader        11/8/2013
12:20:11        3608 (0x0E18)
Connected to
\\<servername.domain>\root\sms\site_ECM        Software Updates Patch Downloader        11/8/2013 12:20:11        3608
(0x0E18)
Download destination =
\\<servername.domain>\dp_wks_ms_updates$\e0a54221-3ff2-4129-b7cf-89bf5cd1f726.1\Windows-KB943729-x86-ENU.exe .        Software Updates Patch Downloader        11/8/2013
12:20:12        3608 (0x0E18)
Contentsource =
http://wsus.ds.download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/software/updt/2009/10/windows-kb943729-x86-enu_e174c41ce3dcbd5c8922d6d1c39df1be425a70e0.exe .        Software Updates Patch Downloader        11/8/2013
12:20:12        3608 (0x0E18)
Downloading content for ContentID = 16824262, 
FileName = Windows-KB943729-x86-ENU.exe.        Software Updates Patch Downloader        11/8/2013 12:20:12        3608 (0x0E18)
Try username <domain\ProxyAccount>        Software Updates Patch Downloader        11/8/2013 12:20:12        12480
(0x30C0)
Proxy enabled proxy server <proxyserver>:8080        Software Updates Patch Downloader        11/8/2013
12:20:12        12480 (0x30C0)
HttpSendRequest failed HTTP_STATUS_FORBIDDEN or HTTP_STATUS_DENIED        Software Updates Patch Downloader        11/8/2013
12:20:12        12480 (0x30C0)
Download
http://wsus.ds.download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/software/updt/2009/10/windows-kb943729-x86-enu_e174c41ce3dcbd5c8922d6d1c39df1be425a70e0.exe to C:\Windows\TEMP\CAB6E4B.tmp returns 403        Software Updates
Patch Downloader        11/8/2013 12:20:12        12480 (0x30C0)
ERROR: DownloadContentFiles() failed with hr=0x80070193        Software Updates Patch Downloader        11/8/2013
12:20:12        3608 (0x0E18)
The RuleEngine.log shows:
Failed to download the update from internet. Error = 403 SMS_RULE_ENGINE 11/8/2013 16:18:25 3608 (0x0E18)
Failed to download ContentID 16824467 for UpdateID 16819978. Error code = 403 SMS_RULE_ENGINE 11/8/2013 16:18:25 3608 (0x0E18)
It seems that the ADR uses a wrong password when authenticating with the proxy, but this same user works when synchronizing with WSUS.
We performed the following actions with no result:
run the ADR manually and automatic,
reinstalled WSUS and SUP,
changed proxy user account.
Regards,
Matthias

Currently, the command shows:
Current WinHTTP proxy settings:
    Direct access (no proxy server).
We've been testing with:
upddwnldcfg.exe /s:<proxyserver>:<port> /u:<user> /allusers
psexec -i -s iexplore.exe, set Internet Explorer proxy manually
All with same result, proxy user getting locked when ADR runs.
(These settings have been removed after the test.)
I think dekac99 would suggest netsh winhttp set proxy or import proxy.
then turn off proxy use on the role SUP (this way not SCCM will send auth but all winhttp will use proxy)
the problems with that for me are:
- if MS implemented role-based proxy usage, why set at http layer - of course this might work as a workaround for the time being so it might be a good idea but I'm just not sure what unwanted issues it may cause
- the other thing is where I'm not sure, with set proxy you cannot define authentication account. if you use import from IE and the IE prompted for proxy auth, the stored credential will be used on winhttp layer (though I'm not 100% sure of that) - so this
is just too uncontrolled for me
- upddwnldcfg.exe will need to run in the name of system account (it stores credentials under HKCU so far I know it will be a per user based setting)
--> what confuses me, the catalog synch works which should use the same configured proxy and account(?), only ADR does not work. shouldn't they both use the same process for sending account auth info?

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