Selling & purchasing in subcontracting

hi gurus
my secenario is like this
1) I m issue my A class material on free issue challan with excise gate pass mentioning assess.value & duty on it.(availling duty to vendor)
2) then subcontractor add some component & charge me for labour charge + component cost + margin
3) when he sends my semifinish matrl B along with invoice saying below
a) my mtrl value   = 100
b) vendor scope   = 5 (labour charge + compont cost + margin)
c)excise duty on (b) = .....
d)excise duty on (a) =.......
e) ammount         =     .bcd     ........(not "a")
f) Vat on (e)          = ...............
so i am paying to vendor is only = e + f
so how i should map it.
Regards
ROC

hi dear
guide me please
ROC

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