Sequential confirmation and restricting over confirmation - Process orders

Hi,
We have a process orders with phaes 20,40 and 60. Order qty = 100 pc
1. We would like to have sequenstial confirmations from 20->40->60.
2. When we confirmation phase 40 , quantity should not exceed the confirmed quantity of phase 20. ( Example , if 20 is confirmed for , say , 10 pc , then user trying to confirm 11pc in phase 40 , should result in an error )
3.When we enter confirmations in COR6N , we would like to have the previous confirmed quantity to appear as default and if user changes to a higer quantity than the previous confirmation quantity , it should give an error message.
( for example , here when user confirms phase 20 - order qty less previously confirmed qty = 100-10=90 pc should come as default ; for phase 40 , default confirmation qty should appear as 10 pc and user trying to change it to 11pc, shoudl result in an error)
In order confirmation parameters , we have chosen " error when operation sequences are not adhereed to ".
and in over delivery tolerance , we have chosen " wanring message"
How can we achieve this modifitcation?
Thanks and regards,
Manohar

HI,
In the confirmation parameters OPK4(Customizing for Shop Floor Control, choose Operations -Confirmation -Define Confirmation Parameters) you set the Propose indicator in the quantities area, to stipulate that quantities should be proposed when confirmations are entered under "Operation Individual entry using Indv. scren" tab Page. and test
If this is not working out
Check
Control key for operations (in Customizing for Shop Floor Control by choosing Master Data -Routing Data - Define Control Key), you stipulate whether an operation can or must be confirmed (Confirmations key).
Checking the Quantity to be Confirmed (Confirmations key).
If the operation sequence is checked for confirmations, then the following quantity check takes place: If you want to enter a confirmation in which the sum of the yield, rework quantity and scrap is larger than the yield of the predecessor, then the system issues an appropriate message (for example, an error message). The predecessor is determined exactly as described in the graphic.
Irrespective of whether the operation sequence is adhered to, the quantity is checked against the quantity of the predecessor operation (= expected quantity) and a message is issued (the category is set in Customizing). The following cases can occur:
The confirmed quantity is larger than the expected quantity.
You are entering a final confirmation and the confirmed quantity is smaller than the expected quantity.
The message category determines your next entry option:
After acknowledging a warning, you can continue entering.
In the case of an error message, the system terminates the input dialog.

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