Service Materials PO

Hi Gurus,
I need help in the following questions.
1)When do we need to create Service Master (AC03) and when we can select a suitable NLAG material for services in a PO?
2) If we put item category "D" in the PO, can we skip the material field and create a PO for services? Is creating Service Master necessary?
3) We need to configure the short text description in material type like the following way:
Material Type:NLAG (Services). A buyer chooses an NLAG material and he can put any description(such as Consulting services, Cleaningservices, etc) in the Short Text column in Item Overview, while creating a PO.
Material Type:ROH . This flexibility will not be available. The desription of the material will be pulled up from the material master and no change allowed.
Is this possible? If yes, then how we can configure it?
Thanks,
Kumar

Hi,
the recommended process for service procurement is the use of
MM-SRV with service specifications (service masters, service descriptions with just texts, limits) , PO item categories D or B.. Please select always the button "full screen services" to go to the services screen in the purchasing documents. I would also recoomend to open on the services screen the outline view - a hierarchical view for organizing your services according to your needs.
Material type DIEN is just a small scale workaround for customers who
deal with services only occasionally and judge that MM-SRV is too
complex for them.
For this purpose the SAP standard delivery contains material type DIEN
which can be "purchased" externally. As DIEN materials are obviously
no "real" physical materials they cannot be kept in stock.
Consequently PO's for DIEN materials must always have an account
assignment category. With this regards DIEN materials are just
an improvement of the purchasing without material number (freetext
items). On the other hand the process is not at all comparable to
the much more sophisticated service procurement with MM-SRV.
I hope the above information answers your inquiry.
Regards,
Edit

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Gurus I am trying hard to get the solution for this problem and expecting your useful suggestion for the same.
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regards,
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Hi Sanjai
Go for Rental contract (slaes document type is MV , item cat is MVN) and do the billing plan is periodic billing
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there u have to determine rule table for determine dates
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Dear Adi,
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May i know what is the function of"Limit" tab under Item for a service
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Hi,
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value in cost control.
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purchasing document.
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SRM Guru's
Product Ver: SRM 5.0 : ECC 6.0 ( No CCM or Service Master )
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Hi
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http://www.requisite.com/solutions/index.cfm?pageID=productpac_bugseye
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hi,
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