Service subcontracting

hi grus,
i want to know can i run subcontracting scenario for service? if yes how? in that case wether we hav to creat service master or we can make master record using material type dien? pls help also explain in that case how to make gr by service entry sheet or by migo

Hi ,
Difficult to understand your question but you try to know when DIEN can be used and Service master, and then only you can design your business process.
Material master records with material type DIEN is used for when you offer "SERVICE" to your customer.( The steps are (VA01,VF01,VF04,F-28), If u used HR module( you can used with sales order with t.codes are: CAT2,CATS_APPR_LITE,CAT7,PR05,PRRW,PRFI)
Service master records(ESM) is used when you procure "SERVICE" from your vendor.( Steps are: ME21N with Item Cat. "D" with Acc. ***. Cat. "K" or "C", ML81N,MIRO & F-53).
Service can be received, once vendor completed his service as Service Entry Sheet in T.code: ML81.Please note that Service entry sheet is the equivalent of a goods receipt from a materials point of view.
Regards,
Biju K

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There are two ways of subcontracting in SAP...opration subcontarcting and material sub contract
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In the above case
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Hi All,
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Dear Vivek
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Once you receive the material A, when you do GR, the materials are issued to A and A will be inventarised with mov type 101.
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I have one scenario to map.
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Hi,
We are sending machines to a vendor for repair. Most of the times we are providing the spares- say as an example gear to the vendor. Sometimes vendor can also use this gear from his own if it is not available with us. In addition if required some other spare in the machine need to be changed, he can use his own spare.
He sends us the bills for his services and of spares if he has used any.
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In your case better is to send a subcontracting PO for the Finished component you required from the subcontractor.
and you can maintain the same value in subcontracting Info record irrespective of the material he use .
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Our client is issuing 100 pieces of component "A" to subcontracting vendor to manufacture finished product "B". In MIGO, we are receiving finished product B and consumption is booked for 100 pieces of component A . Invoice is paid to the subcontracting vendor for the service cost.
Later, we realized finished product did not met the quality standards and decided to scrap out the finished product B. This is scrapped and stocked out using std. SAP using 551 mov type. But the client want to charge scrap cost of finished product B, service cost (Job work cost) and the consumed components (A) of 100 pieces to subcontracting vendor. How to map this challenging scenario in Std. SAP.
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Just create a standard PO, use material as FG (Material B as per your scenario)
Enter the vendor (whom you want to charge for it)
Let me explain the scenario:
1. You have created a subcontracting PO for vendor X, FG material B and component A.
Subcontracting service charge = Rs. 10.
Price for Material B = Rs. 50
Price for material A = 30.
2. You have done GR.
Now the FG material B is in your stock. (Here, you have done 551 movement type). Right ?
Now just do not do 551 movement type. Leave the stock as it is.
3. Then create a standard PO for material B and vendor X, give the price = (10+50+30) 90 and tick the return option in PO line item.
4. Then do goods receipt. Movement type 161 will be automatic posted in system and stock will be consumed from your storage location.
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GR/IR account Debit.
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I've also posted this thread in the EAM forum but as this is a general topic - subcontracting - it is also posted here:
Is it possible to send components on a PM03 (external services) operation for subcontracting?
To be more clear: we've defined the following starting scenario's:
1) send an item for an analysis - positiontype L / PM02 operation
2) send an item for a modification directly - position type L / PM02 operation
Ad1:
The subcontractor might report back that the item sent needs to be overhauled or should be modified. In any way, a certain service (modification) should be carried out. This service is predefined in the system in a service master record. We currently process this service as a PM03 operation in the PM order and stipulates a service preq and PO. So send the item on PM02, add another line - PM03 - to handle to service. We do a GR on the PM02 operation and do a service entry sheet receipt for the service performed.
Ad2)
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Hello,
I need your help to the following scenario:
1. Company 1: I receive from our customer a material (the material belongs to him) to repair. Then I need to post it and the material needs to appear in the stock as material of the third partner in our company. The Nota Fiscal has the CFOP 5949, no taxes.
2. Company 1: Then, I pick up this material and send out to our supplier to make the repair. Nota Fiscal CFOP 5940, no taxes.
3. Company 2: As I'm also the supplier in another plant, I receive this material, make the repair and send it back to the customer, in the step 2. Nota Fiscal CFOP 5949, no taxes.
3.1. How to bill the aggregated costs? Because I needed to put new components and labour to make the repair.
4. Company 1: I receive the material repaired from the company 2.
5. Company 1: I send it back to the original customer and bill the service.
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Hi,
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