Settlement Parameters on Product Cost Collectors

The basic config on Product Cost Collectors has settlement to a material.
1) Does someone know how to change the settlement rules to settle to a GL account or Order for new materials
2) For old materials, does someone know how to change the settlement rules. SAP - I believe in HELP and in note 388457 says you cannot change the setlement rules.
Thanks

Thank you for responding.
Unfortunately, even if you create a new profile and allocation structure, you cannot change it on the order.
I later found in SAP HELP that the settlement profile on cost collectors cannot be change. That was also verified by oss 388457.
But, I was hoping I was wrong or there has been a further change
Jeffrey

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1.We are using CO88 - Collective Settlement Processing for Product cost collectors but some of the cost collectors are not settling fully. Where as the same cost collector settled individually without any problem.
2. Some cost collectors are settled but very small amounts are still there as un-settled.
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Welcome to SDN! We hope your 1st experience here is good
Issue 1: It depends on the error that you got at the time of settlement... Many times, when a PCC is being posted to from Production while you are trying to settle, it can give you error...
later on it can be settled w/o any issues
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Check in order type, Which settlement profile is maintained. Then Goto settlement profile maintain receive type which you want to settle.
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We are having a situation,
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Hi SAP Gurus,
While creating Product Cost Collector I am getting the following Error:
Enter a distribution rule for Order without a validity limit
Message no. KD059
Diagnosis
The settlement profile used requires you to define a distribution rule for Order. For period 009 2008, however, you have not created a distribution rule for Order.
Procedure
Create a distribution rule for Order without a validity limit, because, if the distribution rule does have a validity limit, the system always issues this message in the period following the last valid period.
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Dear Suryanarayana
Please check the corresponding settlement profile for product orders.
In most of the cases message KD059 means that no distribution rule is assigned to your production order.
This is not an error, but the system design. In order to avoid message KD059 you will either have to enter settlements parameters and a distribution, or change settlement profile for valid receivers in transaction OKO7 from 'settlement required' to 'Can be settled'.
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In REM
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1.Product Cost collector is one of the master data in REM scenario.
2.This product cost collector is no where related to MRP.
3.Product Cost collector is used as a cost object in REM scenario,which means all the cost will be
booked under this product cost collector for that material.
4.Whatever the confirmations that are done in MFBF or MF41 or MF42N,the cost will get debited or
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7.so whenever you do an assembly or activity or component backflush,the cost will be booked under
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The client is wanting to archive old Product Cost Collectors. There are 3 of them that say that they have unsettled variances. I need to delete these which are in 1999 and 2001
The error message is KO451. I have tried to set this error to a warning but it is not allowing this
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Hi Dawn,
you can check SAP note 140672 in which the procedure to be followed is explained
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Hi,
Following link will be useful:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/5f/1faba54aee11d189740000e8322d00/frameset.htm
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- Product Cost by Period, Product is the main cost object.
- Actual costs can be collected on the PCC
- No settlement rule for a mfg order linked to a PCC
- In PCC, the components in the BOM picks up the price from the material master
- If Std Cost Est is not upto date, then matls in PCC will take existing / old price
- So the FG Preliminary cost estimate will not match with its Std Cost
- Moreover inventory valuation may vary if std cost est is not up to date
- The Valuatin variant specified in the Costing variant actual of the PCC is used to valuate the data confirmed for the mfg order.
- This costing variant results in a temporary prelim cost est for the mfg order. This preliminary cost estimate cannot be saved.
Integration with Mfg Order:-
If you have specified in the order type of your mfg orders that the costs should be collected on a PCC rather than on the mfg order, the system creates a link to the PCC when you create a mfg order for the corresponding combination of characteristics (such as material / plant / production version). The mfg order receives the status PCC (product cost collector). This status prevents costs from being allocated to the manufacturing order.
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Steffen

Hi Ajay,
thank you for your answer.
We have tested two variants:
1. new order type, so we can process two separate settlements, for orders with PCC and the new orders without PCC. After archiving of all prodorders with pcc, archiving of pcc it should be possible to switch back to old order type.
2. change customizing without finishing existing orders, settlement for existing orders, all orders which already have been processed will be settled by pcc (status pcc usage in order header) We have not be seen any strange system behavior.
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Best regards
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Hi Alok,
This is from SAP documentation:
Costs
Actual costs
The costs of the parent and child orders are collected in a common Product Cost Collector. This is because the parent order, as a rule, has already caused actual costs before the split took place. If the actual costs were collected in the parent order before the split, and separately in the parent/child orders after the split, then the materials of the parent order would have excessively high costs per piece, and the child order correspondingly lower costs. As a result, settlement for each order would result in unwanted variances in controlling.
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Why is that a problem to you?

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I have one doubt in REM product cost calculation.
1) when I am running PCC for REM I met with following error as - Routing does not match with selection
ID 01.
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3.Ensure you have selected rate routing in the task list type in the production version.
4.Check what routing selection id is assigned in MRP parameters in OPPQ and also in the scheduling
parameters in OPU5 for the order type PE.
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Using CO88 - variance will be settled.
Please go through this link.
<u>http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/en/5f/1faba54aee11d189740000e8322d00/frameset.htm</u>
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