Shake 4 with FCP 4.5

I know that in FCP Studio 2 there is an "export to Shake" menu choice, but I'm still using FCP 4.5. Does this selection create a specific type of file, or does it just simplify the workflow? In other words, what export selection would I use from FCP 4.5 to create a file to use in Shake 4?
Thank you in advance.
Lloyd

I've got a little (LITTLE) apple pro training book for Shake that is nothing but node overviews. Great for quickly finding the one you think you want.
I'd also say that adding the node and then clicking on the HELP button in the parameter for that node gives you just about the same (if not more!!) information on usage.
The problem for me was always thinking one node at a time. Bad idea!! What you want to do is get to know a shake compositor really well and have them send you pictures of their scripts with circles drawn around the groups.
For me coming from AE world this helped me 'see' how groups of nodes created single effects in AE - and how. Not to say that this doesn't oversimplify things (WAY oversimplified as it doesn't even begin to get into the parameter control), but asking gee... why did you stick a switcher node right there? answer, Oh - it was just a placeholder so I didn't have to keep reconnecting the fileins down stream... or, why did you change color space there? answer... look at those 4 nodes together they make a chroma blur for a better key.
That sounds like a good web page... maybe I'll start one!!
CaptM

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Hi @ all,
I updated to FCP 5.1.2 to fix a dublicate bug with a Sony XDCam HD in 5.1.1 (http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=3269745#3269745)
This Problem was solved, but now i can't connect my Sony DSR-25 with Firewire to Mac. I have only one Firewire Onboard Slot and in 5.1.1 the DSR-25 worked fine. FCP doesn't finde the Deck
So did anyone have an intention or an idea what the problem could be with 5.1.2 ? Or did anyone has used a DSR-25 with FCP 5.1.2 already?
TOM

This is a good workaround for curing your camera recognition problem with FCP (if that's what it is):
First, check that your Easy Setup / Timeline / Camera or Deck Settings are all exactly the same, then making sure your camera or deck is in VTR mode, try to capture again.
FCP uses a different form of QT than iMovie for capturing, so if the camera works in iMovie (or if it's listed in System Profiler) but not FCP, it obviously means your Mac can see the VTR but FCP can't, so you need to do this QuickTime fix.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301852
Follow the instructions carefully and you should have things running in no time - it's quite safe but you must Trash the Receipts AND re-install QT from the link provided.
If the Camera / Deck isn't recognised by iMovie or System Profiler, try resetting the Firewire Bus . . . Turn off the Mac and disconnect the power and all Firewire cables. Leave it for 30 mins then connect back up.
Still not working? Try a different Firewire cable.
Failing all this, try resetting the PMU (Power Management Unit). The method varies from machine to machine, so visit the Apple site and search for it in support.
Don't use iMovie for capturing - it doesn't give you a timecode and that's very important.
Let us know how you get on!
Andy
Quad 8GB. 250+500 HDs. G-Raid 1TB. NORTON. FCP 5.1.2. Shake 4.1. Sony HVR Z1E Mac OS X (10.4.7)
"I've taught you all I know, and still you know nothing".

XL H1 24F with FCP 5.1.4

hallo dear FCP users,
I will be shooting a dokumentary in Berlin in the next couple weeks using 2 Canon XL h1 and will be editing the material on my Macpro 2,6 with FCP 5.1.4. I do not have an Aja Kona or anything like that and would like to edit the material at home, then when finished, take my projekt to a Post house where I can reonline the material uncompressed. I do have a few questions being that this is my first HD projekt...
I would like to use this 1080 24F setting on the Canon, are there any drawbacks to this. Would I be able to capture the material using my fire wire to Macpro? In my "Device Control" flip down tab I have only 2 HD settings DVCPRO HD 1080i 50 and DVCPRO HD Fireweire. Which shoudl I use?
I also have a slew of settings in the "Capture/Input" tab, I would imagen that I should use DVCPRO HD 100pA24 48kHz? is that correct?
If all this is possible how fat would the data be? I have some 400 GB free on my second drive. I am expecting a good 6 hours of material, 3 from each Camera, with 4 audo tracks. Would I have enough disk space for that, or should i run out and buy me another 500gb and set up a RAID?
If I were to set up a RAID are their any problems, is it very difficult? I have my normal mac drive 250 gb in slot 1 and a Maxtor 7H500F0 in slot 2. I have heard that there have been some issues with the 3rd harddrive slot? Should i avoind this? is it even necessary?
Ok thanks sorry to send so many questions at once. I would appreciate any help...
thanks a million,
Aaron
ps- i will also be doing some rather simple compositing with Shake. Would there be problems with this if i wold the re online my projekt?
mac g4, macpro 2,6 Mac OS X (10.4.9)
mac g4 Mac OS X (10.3)

I would like to use this 1080 24F setting on the
Canon, are there any drawbacks to this?
You should read and understand what 24f really is on your own
Would I be able to capture the material using my fire wire to
Macpro?
Yes as long as you have FC 5.1.2 or newer.
In my "Device Control" flip down tab I have
only 2 HD settings DVCPRO HD 1080i 50 and DVCPRO HD
Firewire. Which shoudl I use?
Well you can't use either of those listed because Cannon is HDV and if you use 108024p while shooting then that is what your capture should be.
I also have a slew of settings in the "Capture/Input"
tab, I would imagen that I should use DVCPRO HD
100pA24 48kHz? is that correct?
NO, follow the easy setup setting for HDV, 1440x1080 and read the manual of these Cannon H1's to know the edit time base for the camera record mode you chose.
If all this is possible how fat would the data be? \
Only 13 gi's per hour
I have some 400 GB free on my second drive. I am
expecting a good 6 hours of material, 3 from each
Camera, with 4 audo tracks. Would I have enough disk
space for that, or should i run out and buy me
another 500gb and set up a RAID?
NO you will be good to go.
If I were to set up a RAID are their any problems, is
it very difficult? I have my normal mac drive 250 gb
in slot 1 and a Maxtor 7H500F0 in slot 2. I have
heard that there have been some issues with the 3rd
harddrive slot? Should i avoind this? is it even
necessary?
No not necessary just make sure your capture drive is separate from the boot drive.
Good Luck
Z1&V1user

Shake to FCP

Hi there,
Iam new to this forum. Hope I can help others in the future.
Recently I got Shake 4.1. I been editing with FCP for several years.
The problem I encounter is the following:
I can export from FCP to Shake my clip, then I can process filters and all the great things that Shake offers...
But when I try to go back to FCP the clip goes OFF LINE (red). I have try to interpret the instruction manual many times, I have try to get info on the net, I even called Apple and they sended me to this forum...
So is there anyone that could describe in the most easy possible terms my biggest wall to conquer Shake:
How do I fileout? What are the steps?
I did the render, I did what the instructions say and is not working, try to set up the FORMAT (DV-NTSC) and the Quicktime selection... and still bad luck.
Thanks in advance!
Daniel
www.televisionworks.net
Technical:
I work with the latest Mac X OS
Mac QUAD 4 GIGs of RAM
FCP Studio

Cappy thanks for the answer...
The Connect button is not active.
I was never beeing able to see the entire process from export to import.
Can you confirm I am doing the right steps?
FCP > select clip > right click > name the 3 selections >
export to Shake.
Do the Shake actions...
Select all the nodes, fileout and then go back to FCP
were the clip goes OFF LINE (and the thumbnail does not represent the actions of shake is like a copy of the original fcp clip)
Is there a setting at shake I am missing?
or my dyslexia is kicking in? I know is human error!
Dan

Non-functioning cross-dissolves with FCP 5.1 on intel

I am having trouble with FCP 5.1 running on my macbook. My cross dissolves work when used between two clips but as a fade to black, it doesn't work, or rarely does. I have 8 hours to finish this project to be showed at a wedding reception tomorrow. I've tried trashing the prefs and it did nothing, i emptied all my render files, checked for updates and nothing makes a difference. Please help, I'm runnng out of time.
Patrick

Thanks for trying...
Very strange...and not discounting your proficiency with FCP.
When you place the dissolve end on edit, the dissolve shows up on the end of the clip? but then the clip never dissolves to black?
Yes, the dissolve will show up on the end of the clip, but it plays back as if it is not there. This happens whether it is rendered or not. If I use a cross dissolve between two clips, it plays back perfectly. 'Some' of the clips will dissolve to black but the majority play back as though the transition is not there.
Any chance you're working with a 'favorite' dissolve that may have it's begin/end parameters adjusted?
Tried that and went back and got the original transition and made sure everything was set how it should be. I thought for sure it owuld be the prefs, but no such luck.
Any chance you've got your video layers scrolled downwards and there's a clip on a lower track?
No, I have made sure there is only one track with nothing underneath.
Are any of these clips nested?
Nope.
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IMac which one with FCP 5.1.4 ?

Hello, I have been using a Powerboog G4 with my FCP no problem so anything would be better!!
Now that I have FCP Studio with Motion and would like to to upgrade. Can't afford a tower... So I'm getting an iMac but I'm stock with which modeel and graphics card is best.
The 20" it comes with 2 400firewires, the 24" with one 400 and one 800 firewire. Save the money or spent an extra $500??
I edit DV from a Panasonic DVX100. Except for Motion I have no other need for a super duper video.
Three options ( withstudent discount)
$1,900:
iMac-20", 2.33GHz, 2GB SDRAM, ATI Radeom x1600/256MB-VRAM
$2,336:
iMac-24", 2.33GHz, 2GB SDRAM, NAVIDIA GeForce7300 GTO/128MB-SDRAM
$2,449:
same as aboe 24" but w/NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT 256MB SDRAM
To the above I have to add Apple care plan. If I get the more affordable option I can also buy an exteranl drive. with the other option, I'll wait.
Thank you in advance for your feedback.
iMac Mac OS X (10.4.8)

It's always advisable to get the best that you can afford, but if you're going for the imac, you need an external drive so I'd recommend going for the middle option with a decent external HD.
Have you absolutely checked that you can't source maybe one of the earlier Mac Pro models via an authorized reseller or maybe the apple refurb store (the refurb store currently has one at $2199, I'm sure you could find one cheaper).
The imac is compromised in terms of expandability - do a search on this forum for more details.
Having said that, I coped for a couple of years with FCP 4.5 and a G4 imac and an external HD with no probs, so if you can cope without the expandability and you'll be sticking with SD you'll be OK - don't forget FCP 6 is just around the corner and you'll have to check the system requirements carefully to see if it'll run on an imac should you decide to take this route.

Compressor 2 with FCP 5.1 workflow

I've been reading about using Compressor 2 with FCP 5.1 and have been a bit surprised by some of the following suggestions:
These are from Larry Jordan's website:
"Compressor 2 has problems with both motion estimation and 2-pass VBR. If you are using Compressor 2 make sure to select 1-pass VBR Better and set Motion Estimate to Better. Using Best settings creates very poor video.
There is a lot of talk on the Apple discussion site that 2 pass VBR gives artifacts, especially on transitions and is generally to be avoided.
To compress the file in Compressor, DON'T use "Export to Compressor" in FCP -- it doesn't work reliably. Instead, open Compressor, then drag the file into Compressor and adjust settings.
In their effort to tackle the problem of overshooting data-rates in C1, Apple seems to have ruined the quality of 2-pass VBR encoding to some degree. I've seen quite a few cases now where 2-pass VBR doesn't look as good as the simple 1-pass.
The new version of Compressor has technology in it that is not duplicated using QuickTime conversion.
I have never been comfortable with exporting using QuickTime Conversion. For one thing, it automatically down-samples your movie to 8-bit. For another, it will not be as good a quality as Sorenson Squeeze for the web, or Compressor for DVD. Third, Apple removed the MPEG-2 compression option with the release of QuickTime 7. Finally, the codecs it contains, while adequate for home use, are not up to professional standards either in terms of file size or image quality."
So, from what I gathered from Larry's website...
Use VBR 1 pass instead of VBR 2 pass for best quality
Use Motion Estimate Better instead of Best
Compressor offers better quality compression than Export>Quicktime Conversion
Don't use Export>For Compressor from FCP, instead export a FCP reference file from Export>Quicktime and use that in Compressor.
What do you think?
Thanks,
Richard
ref:
http://www.larryjordan.biz/articles/ljdvdexport.html
http://www.larryjordan.biz/articles/ljbitrate.html
DUAL G5 2GHZ Mac OS X (10.4.6) 2.5 GIGS RAM

Well, different "experts" with slightly different views.
This from hanumang's response to Jerry Hofmann over in the FCP discussion forum:
FCP unrendered to Compressor 2?
hanumang, have you seen a quality difference using the compressor method?
Jerry
In my experience, yes, there is most definitely a difference in quality.
For sake of completeness, when it comes to exporting for DVDSP, this is how I'd break it down:
File > Export > Using Compressor on unrendered timelines in FCP. The best way to do things with FCP & Compressor - especially true if (as mentioned) you're working in some compressed format like DV and doing lots of filters, motion effect and compositing within FCP. In my experience, color correction comes out much cleaner on DV-sourced footage.
On a 1-10 scale, with 10 being the best that Compressor outputs, this method is a 10
File > Export > Using Compressor on rendered timelines in FCP. While inferior to #1, this tends to work better on high-motion footage that needs to be encoded at a low bit rate (which I'd consider 5 Mbps or lower) than #3 because of the frame-by-frame processing. Also, transitions tend to come out better (again, at lower bit rates).
I'd rate this method a 7 out of 10
File > Export > QuickTime Movie with DVD Studio Pro Markers, then import into Compressor 2. While this rates at the bottom, in many cases it's hard to distinguish the output from #2 & #3 unless you're encoding at a 5 Mbps or lower bit rate
I'd rate this a 6 out of 10
In terms of encoding times, if #3 is my baseline, #2 takes about 2-3x as long. #1 takes about 4-5x as long as #3 for me (depending on the level of complexity).
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http://www.studiodaily.com/main/news/prc/6436.html ...quote from this link...
Rob Schoeben, Apple's vice president of Applications Product Marketing. "The JVC GY-HD100U works seamlessly with Final Cut Studio today and future 24p support will give independent filmmakers an even more flexible HD workflow"
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http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=2307338#2307338
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K

How do I use purchaed iTunes music with FCP???!!!

Is it really true that you cannot use purchased music from iTunes with FCP? There HAS to be a way. I promise I will not sell my video. REALLY TRULY!!!

The terms of use for the iTunes tracks is not for professional use, so if you want to use a song, make your movie in iMovie which will allow you to use the tracks.
-Brian

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I now want to use these m2ts files (and if needed possibly these other two smaller files) on my Mac make movies with either iMovie or Final Cut Pro. and don't know how to import them or convert them for use on my Mac. Can anyone help?
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Thanks

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Does anyone know what it could be? I'm seriously considering a fresh install of Mac OS X 10.6 and FCS2, as well as upgrading from 4Gb to 8Gb RAM, but what bothers me most is how this used to never happen, and it's not like the work I'm doing is more intense or heavier than anything I've done before.
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Model Name:          MacBook Pro
Model Identifier:          MacBookPro5,3
Processor Name:          Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed:          2,8 GHz
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Total Number Of Cores:          2
L2 Cache:          6 MB
Memory:          4 GB
Bus Speed:          1,07 GHz
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Andy
Thanks... But again, why would I have to do this now when it was never a problem before?
In any case, all the footage I'm using in this project is XDCAM EX, the only difference being that some footage is 720, while other footage is 1080, and then there's also a variation in terms of interlaced and progressive footage accross the board (it's a rock band documentary, don't ask! )... Could this have something to do with it?
I kinda doubt it, cos one of the TV shows I work on has the same codec, resolution and other settings accorss the board, and I experience the same stutter on these projects...

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canopus works fine, as well as all other devices.
i have tons of tapes and tried a few, none worked.
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maybe i used the canopus then to correct the timebase, i can't remember how i did it. but this would mean i have to accept loss of quality, since i have to connect the sony with s-vhs with the canopus and convert it.
right now i'm importing a tape with imovie and will have a look how the result is, but as far as i remember, the audio has to be re-rendered when importing in fcpx…
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Partitioning a MyBook to use with fcp... can it be Mac Extended and FAT32?

Hi, I'm a film student and a little while ago I just bought a MyBook 1T external hard drive (USB only).
I'm looking into reformatting my hard drive because when capturing with fcp (straight to the hard drive) I keep getting an error at around 9 minutes.
I did some research and found out that its because its formatted to FAT32 instead of Mac Extended.
However, I do a lot of work with PC's and transferring files on my hard drive and I read that once formatted to Mac Extended my hard drive would not work on a PC.
I was wondering if I partitioned my MyBook would I be able to make one part Mac Extended (for my capture scratch files) and one part FAT32 (that I could use like a regular hard drive for files between Mac and PC)?
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@ nick would that let me capture my footage to my hard drive without having to babysit
NTFS does not have the file size limit silliness that FAT has so you should be OK in theory.
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I have just purchased an LG 22EA63 external monitor to use with FCP 7. Monitor connects fine, works ok with other programmes but once in FCP , when i transfer both canvas and viewer windows onto the monitor, playback in not smooth with flickering streaks as if the footage is interlaced (even though my current project only has progressive footage). However it gets even worse with other FCP projects that contain interlaced footage - playback on canvas is even more jerky and streaky, and the viewer window is unable to play back most alterations made to clips (especially anyhting to do with motion or speed), making clips jaggered and unwatchable.
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I am connecting via HDMI to a MacBook Pro (2.8ghz Intel Core Duo, NVIDIA GeForce 9400M, native screen res: 1440x900).
Obviously if I cant fix this I'll have to take the monitor back, any ideas or advice would be much appreciated.
Thank you!

I guess it's more accurate to say that there is a dramatic delay in the video between what I'm seeing in the playback window on my computer monitor and what I'm seeing on the external NTSC monitor. The audio does not have that delay, so on the external monitor the audio and video are out of sync. It makes it difficult to show anyone what you're working on, which is what the "client" monitor is supposed to do.

Wich camcorder with FCP Studio2 ?

Hi
I am undecided between Sony HDR-FX1 and Canon XH A1 to use along with MacPro and FCPStudio2... I am looking for a camcorder in this price range and these two seem the best options... However, FX1 does not have XLR connection ( I use to record audio separatly, so this is not an absolute no go), on the other hand Canon XH A1 seems to have some issues with FCP...
Any Ideas? about these or other camcorders in this price range to work on this environment ?

Thank you Rob !
I decided upon Canon XHA1... had real good feedback about that camcorder
Thanks !
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