SNP Forecast consumption based on Delivery

Hi Gurus,
What would be the config required for rqmt strategy /anything else for consuming forecast in APO whenever a delivery is made in R3? Is there anything reqd on R3 side as well?
I tried few rqmt strategies with net segment and category group of BR(delivery) consumption with conf qty but did not work.
Thanks.
-Vinay

Hi Vinay,
Please try the copy of Requirement strategy 20 in APO.
You have to create a new category group by copying K01 and remove the category BM from the new category group. Assign this category group to your new requirement strategy.
Then assign this requirement strategy to your Product/Location
While releasing the forecast, please maintain the new requirement strategy in the release program, so that forecast will be released with this strategy.
Then while you create sales order, it will not consume the forecast.
When you create the delivery for SO, it will consume the forecast.
In order to make the forecast reduce, after you post Goods Issue for the delivery, you have to maintain the active integration model for 'Requirement Reduction' for the Product/location.
Regards,
Manimaran M.

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A form of outline purchase agreement under which materials are procured on predetermined dates within a certain time period.
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My question here is: When Sales Order either new or change comes from ECC to APO, what are key fields considered for Forecast Consumption? Is requirements strategy is considered from location product master or Sales Order brings own data from ECC into it's own structure? I have read from SAP help or documentation that Sales Order coming from ECC does not use requirement strategy from Product Master. Rather it get its own fields like planning strategy/group / requirement class from ECC. It uses location product master only to get consumption parameters like forward/back word consumption days. So I am thinking to use some user exits or BAdIs to enhance the incoming sales orders to consume separate forecast categories in APO.
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For the same one product we want sales orders (can have two different order types or identify by a custom field) to consume two different order categories (ie. FA & FC) by enhancing incoming sales orders. So we have regular 1)Forecast key figure which is 'FA' category and 2)Forecast Additional key figure which is FC category. When we release two separate forecasts from DP we release into these two key figures and categories. Now we want incomping sales orders to consume these two categories separately when our sales orders are having two different order types (i.e OR and ZR).
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Standard Logic --- Whatever plant is visible in the Sales Order, the sales order will appear under that Product Location in SNP
There is no standard way of making the sales order visible in another location.
Depending on your requirement(Ex: Forecast Consumption, planning etc),using APO-BW we can simulate the requirements in the other plant which can be a nightly run and not immediate.
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we have some materials those we only need for 3 month. After 3 months we change the materials.
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I need to configure the CBP based on Past consuption data of 3 months and also it should give me future forecast values for 3 months. also I want to use safety stock and Reorder level.
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Hi,
MRP supports and helps the MRP controller in the task areas. These tasks include
determining type, quantity and time of the requirement, and scheduling corresponding
procurement elements. The automatic planning run for MRP determines shortage situations and generates the corresponding procurement elements. Possible
procurement elements of MRP are planned orders, purchase requisitions and
scheduling agreement schedule lines. The planned order and purchase requisition are
internal planning elements that can be changed, rescheduled or deleted at almost
any time.
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quantities. When planning has finished, the system converts the planned orders into
production orders. The system then converts the dependent requirements in the
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not included in MRP at plant level. You can also execute requirements planning
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2. Storage location MRP areas that are defined by the storage locations assigned
to them.
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material provided for a subcontractor and are defined by the assignment of
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planning for a plant:
Requirements planning for the corresponding plant must be activated in
Customizing for Materials Management under Consumption-Based Planning u2192
Planning u2192 Activate Material Requirements Planning.
T-code - OMDU
The plant parameters for the corresponding plant must be activated in
Customizing for Materials Management under Consumption-Based Planning u2192
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T-code - OMI8
In the material master record, you have to maintain the MRP data of the materials
that are subject to automatic planning.
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Consumption Based MRP

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We are running consumption based MRP using MRP Type as VB. We run consumption based MRP daily. In this, when ever there is change in stock level due to consumption, the system reschedules the old schedules also. We don't want to disturb the old schedules generated by MRP as we confirm the vendors as a Firm Schedule.
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Hi Shankar,
SAP online help:
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/1a/8b4bbecdd74536acd4e970faaf6e2d/frameset.htm
SAP recommends working with scheduling agreements with release documentation.
Use a document type for scheduling agreements with release documentation. In the standard system, document type LPA is supplied for this purpose. (In the standard system, the Release docu. indicator is selected for document type LPA in Customizing for Purchasing under Scheduling Agreement à Define Document Types.)
It is sensible to carry out the planning run daily and generate releases (delivery schedules) automatically once a week, for example. You can set up the system in such a way that releases are generated for changed scheduling agreement items (materials) only.
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/3b/66596bda7b11d1b6330000e8a738dc/frameset.htm
Scheduling agreement releases provide information to vendors regarding the quantities of a material that are to be delivered and the desired delivery dates. A scheduling agreement release enables you to record the current status of the lines of a delivery schedule stored in the system for a scheduling agreement item and then transmit this status to the vendor.
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Thanks for your quick answer, do you think it is possible to use /SAPAPO/SDP_RELDATA in order to influence forecast distribution and "simulate" a cross-location consumption?
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ASCP engine does forecast spreading or forecast consumption first?

We are using Demantra for forecasting in Monthly bucket.Say for March 2011, forecast is 2300 qty.
And we have a sales orders 1 for 200 qty on 1st March 2011.
Planning Bucket is daily for 6 months with 5 days working. So for march we have 23 working days.
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Thanks for pointing me to the section.
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