SOAP - Why not use JMS as the transport layer?

I have been looking at the SOAP standard and can't understand
why something hasn't been done. I wondered if someone could help.
With the current Apache SOAP implementation there is a SOAP
Transport interface which is implemented for SMTP and HTTP. The
format of the messages never changes. Although it is not a
protocol it seems eminently sensible to me that there should be
a JMS implementation. Then infrastructure bridging cold be used
to give a universal message queueing standard.
Being as the current standard supports asynchronous messaging
over SMTP. It seems to be a trivial matter to add to the SOAP
implementation that Oracle supply. Does anyone have any good
reason why it shouldn't be done and is there any reason Oracle
and other standards body members couldn't have implemented it
and agreed it in the standard?

Am I missing something? I wasn't thinking of embedding JMS
messages over HTTP, but using JMS itself. This would provide an
industry standard for message queueing message formats, and
would allow interaction with any message queueing product
through bridges (i.e. OMB, with no real work). Aren't you
talking about something different?

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Hi All,
i am new to JMS, can any body tell me Why to use JMS??
i know it used to send message but for why???
if u answer me with an example it will be useful for me.
thanks in advance.

Hi,
Well one very good reason to use JMS is to keep applications that produce information decoupled from applications that consume information. With this decoupled approach, you can any number of producers and consumers sending and processing information...thus making your solution very scalable.
If you think of an online ordering system. A user plugs in a bunch of information about a product they wish to order. Once the form is completed, they hit the submit button. Now you can take one of two approaches:
1. You can have an Enterprise Java Bean ( EJB ) service the order request. That EJB could then communicate with other EJBs within an inventory system to perform a bunch of checks and eventually hand it off to the appropriate system to fulfill the order. From the user's perspective, they are going to have to wait until all of that processing has completed before they can move on. Not a very nice situation. There is a potential that the user could be sitting on their order screen for mintues!!
2. The other approach is to wrap all of the information supplied on the order form into a JMS message and forward the message to an appropriate Topic or Queue. On the other side of that Topic or Queue an inventory system subscribes for order messages. The nice thing about this approach: as soon as the message is sent off to the Topic or Queue, the user regains control of the screen and can continue browsing. Another benefit, you can have multiple consumers processing orders.
I apologize for the length of the response. These are only two benefits of using a Messaging-based approach....there are many, many more.
Regards,
J.

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