Soft proofing in Lightroom vs photoshop

PS give options in softproof
- legacy macintosh gamma 1.8
- internet standard sRGB
- monitor
I find that printing (Epson R3000 from a brand new Lenovo all in 1) gives me very accurate "printed pics look like monitor pics" if I choose legacy macintosh gamma 1.8 option. If I pick the other options they look great on screen but washed out on the picture. 
I use raw initially, then adobe RGB consistently. My monitor is calibrated with ColorMunki.
Is there a way to softproof the gamma 1.8 option in lightroom?
any other suggestions?

No...
What printer? How are you printing out of Lightroom? Using LR Manages Color or Printer Manages Color?

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    Yeah...LR lacks soft proofing presently.

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    The Blurb profile does show up as an option for soft proofing if I try to do it in Photoshop, but I really want to do it in Lightroom to save time since I'm using the Book Module and I know Lightroom so much better than Photoshop.

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    I'll start by saying that I,m no expert in this area...
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    They are totally different apps but with a small amount of overlap.
    You need (inexpensive) Photoshop Elements for individual image editing. PE is poor for management of batches of images.
    Aperture and Adobe's Lightroom are (a bit more expensive) apps for the management of batches of captured digital images. You will want one of them (here we prefer Aperture) as you get into shooting substantial batches of DSLR captures. Aperture will deal with the editing issues of 98% of your images, but you definitely want PE for the 2% which will likely include your best shots.
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  • Softproof in Lightroom and Photoshop on external display not matching

    Hi,
    When I soft proof an image in Lightroom (5) and in Photoshop (CS6) on my external display there is a noticeable difference between the two proofs.
    This is the case both with "simulate paper & ink" on and off (with matching settings in both applications) and with a variety of different profiles being used. On my laptop screen the proofs always match (between Photoshop and Lightroom).
    On the external display with soft proofing off there is an exact match between images in LR and PS. With soft proofing on saturated areas of images (particularly reds, greens and yellows) become noticeably less saturated and blocked up in LR as compared to PS. Subdued colours appear to match. It's almost like they are both using the same profile but Lightroom is squashing it into a smaller gamut. I'm fairly sure PS is correct and LR is the one with something going wrong.
    I'd like to sort it as I'd prefer to soft proof in Lightroom as that's where I print from. I've read up a lot on colour management and can't find a solution.
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    I'm having trouble with Lightroom 5 soft proofing with reds too.  To rid my propossed print of a gamut warning I must totally desaturate or change my paper profile to glossy (or both).  This is odd because my monitor is calibrated, I'm using the correct paper profiles etc and when I ignore the gamut warning my prints are looking good. This isn't helpful to you but at least your not alone....

  • Rendering intent when displaying, exporting or soft proofing?

    I am trying to make use of soft proofing to adjust my images for a given output device for which I have ICC profiles. The two profiles I am playing with are for a Lambda and a Fuji Frontier. The Lambda working space almost fits within Adobe RGB, it exceeds it in only a few places but is noticeably smaller for a number of other colors. The Frontier working space is for most colors a bit smaller than the Lambda and about equal for only a small number of colors. The Frontier working space would also almost fit into sRGB (to give you an impression of its size).
    When soft proofing with Aperture, dark greens desaturate more with the larger Lambda working space than with Frontier one. If the rendering intent were relative colorimetric, colors should be clipped more and limited by the smaller working space of the Frontier. If perceptual is used then colors would in general be somewhat more compressed (ie, desaturated) with the smaller Frontier working space. But I see rather the opposite. In short, neither explanation makes sense.
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    Conclusion 2: Soft proofing with AdobeRGB and sRGB really DOES NOT WORK!

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    I want to soft proof with the Blurb ICC profile. In LR4.0 beta I can only select from attached printers or display profiles.
    OS10.6.8, I have stored the Blurb profile in root/Library?ColorSync/Profiles.
    In Photoshop the Blurb profile is an option, so that location works for Photoshop (version 12.1)

    Austerberry wrote:
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    Third, if any print provider demands output in say sRGB (which is what LR feeds to Blurb), then a user has no control over the actual conversion process (control of Rendering intent, pretty darn important, Black Point Compensation etc). So in such workflows, having a profile you can’t use, being forced to send sRGB is kind of pointless.
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