Soundtrack Pro Mixdown playback in FCP

I am trying to export a mixdown sequence from soundtrack pro to final cut pro. The only sound should be the music, but when I open the sequence up once its been exported to fcp there are no audio tracks or sound of any kind. I know it must be something simple but right now I'm at a loss of what I'm doing wrong.

They are WAV files; that may be it. I thought maybe the folder structure was getting in the way, so I tried aliases of folders that directly contained files. That didn't work. But then I remembered that I had added them to iTunes a while ago (referenced, not sucked into the iTunes Library) so I could use iTunes to search them. I made a Smart Playlist so I could get to them quickly and then search. That Smart Playlist shows up in FCP X and the files play. So that may be a solution: reference any non-cooperating folders in iTunes and get to them that way. I really do appreciate your taking time to help.

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They are WAV files; that may be it. I thought maybe the folder structure was getting in the way, so I tried aliases of folders that directly contained files. That didn't work. But then I remembered that I had added them to iTunes a while ago (referenced, not sucked into the iTunes Library) so I could use iTunes to search them. I made a Smart Playlist so I could get to them quickly and then search. That Smart Playlist shows up in FCP X and the files play. So that may be a solution: reference any non-cooperating folders in iTunes and get to them that way. I really do appreciate your taking time to help.

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hallo kraut cutter,
köln ist nicht weit weg von kupferzell.
hattes du das gleiche problem wie wir das du eine xml datei aus einem mehrspur soudtrack projekt nicht
mehr importieren konntest, und konnten dirdie software rebellen
mir ihrem tool gezielt helfen.
ich hab eau fder website keinen hinweis auf die problemlösung entdecken können.
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