Sourcing Strategy based on Quantity Price Breaks and Risk

The customer would like to optimize the supply chain cost by considering the quantity based price breaks at Raw Material Level and model the risk to source strategically with suppliers at SKU# Level and optimize the cost across the supply chain Network from Raw Material to FG
Does SNO support modeling price breaks along with Risk associated by SKU# into cosideration to source raw material strategically?
The FG cost is based on which Supplier the raw material is sourced from as the downstream processes depend on the raw material source.
I do see similar capability listed on Llamasoft website w.r.t Strategic Sourcing. I would like to know if this capability is supported by SNO? If so how is it modeled in SNO?
http://www.llamasoft.com/Solutions/StrategicSourcing.aspx

Hi,
Net order value is known ie we give value for the characteristicex: RS.100000 or 1 crore etc, but effective price is unknown how can we mention that a charactristic value? I dont understand
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Where in the icx tables are price break and price break quantities stored?

I am trying to build a query from the icx tables that will show me all the BPA line price breaks and quantities.
I cannot seem to find any documentation on what is specifically is extracted from the BPA lines when an internal catalog build is performed. I am able to validate that in iP, the price breaks are being taken into consideration when I create Requisitions with various quantities, but I do not know where iP is storing this information. Perhaps the data isn't stored and is taken from the core app po_line_locations_all table at the time the requisition is being created?
I have a BPA, line 27, that has multiple price break lines.
select rt_item_id, price_type, contract_num, contract_line_num, allow_price_override_flag, not_to_exceed_price, value_basis
from apps.icx_cat_item_prices
where contract_num = 'xxxxxx' and contract_line_num = '27'
and price_type = 'BLANKET';
All I could find when running this query was the price break information for the first price break line, none of the other price break lines.
If anybody knows where the documentation is that tells me exactly what is extracted from the core application BPA to the icx tables, I would be greatly appreciative. Even better, if someone already knows the answer to either 1) price break and quantity are not stored in icx tables or 2) they are stored and you have SQL that shows me how to find it, I would be so very appreciative to have this information.
Edited by: user6287397 on Jan 24, 2009 6:40 AM

I got the answer. :-)
Price breaks details are not stored in any icx tables. iP retrieves the information based on the need by date entered on the requisition.
Oracle support referred me to the Oracle® Purchasing Release 11i10 Open Interfaces and APIs.
The java code - SourceDocHelper.java - is responsible to get the price information by calling the procedure po_price_break_grp.get_price_break (POXPRBKB.pls DefaultPricing ) For a given a Source Document (Quotation/Catalog), Quantity and Unit of Measure, this procedure derives the best price for the calling routine.
The SQL used to get the price information that was sent to me is attached. Note that this SQL uses the need by date to get the right price in case of price break used at the distribution level.
SELECT poll.price_override
, round(poll.price_override * v_conversion_rate,
l_base_curr_ext_precision )
, poh.rate_date
, poh.rate
, poh.currency_code
, poh.rate_type
, poll.price_discount
, poll.price_override
, decode( poll.line_location_id,
null, pol.unit_meas_lookup_code,
poll.unit_meas_lookup_code)
, poll.line_location_id -- SERVICES FPJ
FROM po_headers_all poh -- FPI GA
, po_lines_all pol -- FPI GA
, po_line_locations_all poll -- FPI GA
WHERE poh.po_header_id = p_source_document_header_id
and poh.po_header_id = pol.po_header_id
and pol.line_num = p_source_document_line_num
and pol.po_line_id = poll.po_line_id
and ( p_required_currency is null
or poh.currency_code = p_required_currency )
and ( p_required_rate_type is null
or poh.rate_type = p_required_rate_type )
and nvl(poll.unit_meas_lookup_code, nvl(p_unit_of_measure,
pol.unit_meas_lookup_code))
= nvl(p_unit_of_measure, pol.unit_meas_lookup_code)
Change sysdate to l_pricing_date in order to use the Need By
Date
to determine the price.
and (trunc(nvl(l_pricing_date, trunc(sysdate))) >= trunc(poll.
start_date) -- FPJ Custom Price
OR
poll.start_date is null)
and (trunc(nvl(l_pricing_date, trunc(sysdate))) <= trunc(poll.
end_date) -- FPJ Custom Price
OR
poll.end_date is null)
--Bug #2693408: added nvl clause to quantity check
and nvl(poll.quantity, 0) <= nvl(p_in_quantity, 0)
Determining the price based on ship-to-location and
destination organization
and ((poll.ship_to_location_id = v_ship_to_location_id OR poll.
ship_to_location_id is null)
AND
(poll.ship_to_organization_id = p_destination_org_id OR poll.
ship_to_organization_id is null))
and poll.shipment_type in ('PRICE BREAK', 'QUOTATION')
-- <2721775 START>: Make sure Quotation Price Breaks are Approved.
AND ( -- ( poll.shipment_type IS NULL )
( poll.shipment_type = 'PRICE BREAK' )
OR ( ( poll.shipment_type = 'QUOTATION' )
AND ( ( poh.approval_required_flag <> 'Y' )
OR ( EXISTS ( SELECT ('Price Break is Approved')
FROM po_quotation_approvals pqa
WHERE pqa.line_location_id = poll.line_location_id
AND pqa.approval_type IN ('ALL
ORDERS', 'REQUISITIONS')
AND trunc(nvl(l_pricing_date,
sysdate)) -- FPJ Custom Price
BETWEEN
trunc(nvl(start_date_active, sysdate-1))
AND trunc(nvl(end_date
_active, sysdate+1)))))))
-- <2721775 END>
order by poll.ship_to_organization_id ASC, poll.ship_to_location_id ASC,
NVL(poll.quantity, 0) DESC,
trunc(poll.creation_date) DESC, poll.price_override ASC; /*
*/

Quantity price breaks

Hello! Using hierarchies & expansions for quantity price breaks is too time consuming. Is there a better way? We currently are applying price breaks to each item 4 times. Each instance represents each price list used. This practice is redundant to say the least. Is there a global quantity break for all price lists?

I am currently developing an enhancement to the Special Prices specific to a customer's need. It will enable the user to Add a <b>Single</b> Period Driven "Disc%" & "Price After Disc" to <b>Multiple</b> Items within a Special Price List for Partner. This is because the customer has Multiple Items that have the Same Period Driven Price and are managed simultaneously. So, instead of the User entering the same item's Period Deal to one Item at a time (time consuming and duplication), the items' Period Deal can be added to multiple Items at ONE GO by selecting/highlighting multiple Items in the Special Prices Form. I have not attempted the adding of Quantity Driven Deals as YET, but i will be in the comming weeks.
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Hi
We have PO release strategy based on net order value.
If we make the release strategy based on effective price then what would be the impact? What r the risk factor involved?
Regards
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Hi,
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As we know this is standard sap as the PO release strategy can configure on PO net price not any other prices e.g. effective price etc.
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Hello gurus -
I'm trying to set up a discount structure that grants price break percentages to various products (the percentage differs by product) based on total order volume.
I have a modifier created in our test instance, but it only applies the discount to each line once the $ threshhold is reached, not the order as a whole.
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Item B: 2%
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Expiration date and Price break date in blanket purchase agreement

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In Blanket purchase agreement i see expiration date and in price break i see the from date and to date, can some one tell me the difference between these two dates?
Issue
1.when i try to put an end date(expiration date) to one of the line i get this error message or when i try to cancel the po line by giving some reason it throws the same error.
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Sudharshan

Hi Sudarshan,
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inventory a/c    dr
   gr/ir clearing a/c    cr
if there is any quantity & price difference in between PO and GR ex- PO order -1000 bags @ rs 10 but good receipt 900 @ Rs 10
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siba

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in the example for standard price
         gr for po :10 bags @ 11
dr stock 100
cr gr/ir 110
dr price diff 10
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regards
eashwar

Strategy in task list and Strategy based Maintenance Plan

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I have some doubt about
is it same if we create a single cycle plan with a task list in which maintenance strategy let say A is being used and a maintenance plan strategy based let say A and task list without any strategy
can some one explain use of strategy in task list and maintenance plan
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Armaan

Hi,
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Hi Experts,
What are the table names for quotation, quotation lines and quotation price breaks.
Thanks,
MPH

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1) We created a Price List for list of Items and it price list is defined there
2) Then we created Price List (Customer Specific) and based on the quantity in our custom table for that customer and item we have to fetch the price from the Price Break List.
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Aryan

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I would like to explain my question using the following example.
Price Break Setup: Range
Qty From Qty To Price
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101 200 5
201 9999999 2
In Sales Order, if the quantity is 150, the order will have the following line:
Line1
Item A
Qty: 150
Unit Price: 8.33
Amount: 1250
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Item A
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Hi Rajesh,
Advanced Pricing implements range pricing in a different way. As you have seen, it will do the calculation based on range and assign an average unit price for each item, in stead of splitting the order line. I do not think there is any provision in Oracle to split lines for range price break.
-Nitin

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