Special Procurement using 80
Need to understand when using the special procurement 80 ( Direct procurement) that the lead times for the production order are created from the processing times from the producing plant. MRP runs and looks at the planning plant to create planned orders based on the demand. The lead-times since taken from the production plant are not considered and therefore the leadtimes are zero. Is there some configuration that we have missed when setting up the special procurement in OMD9?
Hi,
You might have already checked these settings:
To carry out the actual planning and production, following steps are advised-
1) In SPRO, in the special proc key parameter's setting for Planning plant , mention production plant as the alternative plant.
2) Prepare the material master of the required material in planning plant , in MRP 2 view maintain spl proc key as 80 (production in alternative plant)
3) Maintain the material master in the alternative(Production) plant too. In MRP 2 maintain proc type = E. Maintain routing.
4) Carry out MRP run in planning plant. If there is any demand, a planned order (spl proc key 80) will be created in planning plant. The stock requirement list will show production plant.
5) With proper settings, the planned order in planning plant after converting becomes a production order in Produton plant.
6) When the production is executed, the stock in planning plant is directly updated when you hit a GR against production order in production plant .
Regards
Datta
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