SSH and REMOTE X......Not X Forwarding

I've setup several web servers at home for myself, a website, and WordPress on both virtual and real hardware to learn more about servers.
They have varied from just installing Apache on a Ubuntu desktop to installing my website and Wordpress on a lamp server without X.
I quickly learned the benefits of a server without X and a GUI, so I set a goal to setup and configure a lamp server without installing a GUI......and I finally accomplished it!!
Now I'll be the first to admit that I'm still more comfortable in a GUI environment compared to the command line. However, I have no problem using the command line when needed, and am comfortable navigating the file system and editing config files using nano, while still learning and trying to remember commands!!!
My question is where to get more info on how to access my current server without X installed, via SSH and remote X from my Arch desktop to use GUI apps.
I already use the "connect to remote SSH server" to remotely manipulate the file system over my local network using Nautilus.
If Nautilus will work via remote X, then all GUI apps in theory will work. I'm just having problems actually figuring out how to it!!!
I've read that, "By default, this feature is disabled (for security reasons)". So I need to
startx -listen_tcp
But to do that, I need to:
If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again.
But when the X server is not running, the tmp file referred to is not there!!
Any ideas on how to "toggle" this function on and off easily?
Security risks?
I would also appreciate any additional refrence material on remote X.
Last edited by jeff story (2009-10-11 19:42:15)

mcover,
First, I'd like to ask you something. Did I really say something so wrong that you have to be a rude f#&ker in your reply and try to belittle me for not knowing as much about how Linux works as you?? Did I unknowingly insult you in some way? Sorry if I did.
mcover said:
What you want to do is, run a bunch of GUI apps remotely on your server (let's call it machine B) and forward their X output to your machine (machine A). That certainly defeats the purpose of a server, but heck.. it's all possible.
OK, based on that statement, either you aren't getting what I'm wanting to do, or perhaps you can explain why you feel that way.
No, I don't want to run GUI apps on my server and forward X.....Thats exactly what I don't want to do.
Quote mcover:
That certainly defeats the purpose of a server
When I'm NOT going to install anything additional on my server to do what I want, and ask for security considerations?
Wow....
Quote mcover:
But the remote-SSH feature of Nautilus is in no way remote X or X-Forwarding.
So lets see.....server has no X installed, no Nautilus installed, and I use Nautilus (remotely from the OS and file system I'm manipulating)
Nautilus front end (GUI) can't display without X .....
....hmmm, Sorry if i'm not being clear enough for you. Did I screw up on some Linux terminology or something???? Please elaborate...
Quote mcover:
But I do suggest you get comfortable with the command line
Oh, you obviously missed this paragraph I wrote in the original post then:
Now I'll be the first to admit that I'm still more comfortable in a GUI environment compared to the command line. However, I have no problem using the command line when needed, and am comfortable navigating the file system and editing config files using nano, while still learning and trying to remember commands!!!
Quote mcover:
Then you'd have to look into VNC or NX.
As I said, I don't want to add anything (packages) to my server, so VNC works without X installed?
So thanks for your reply, but no thanks, I'll wait until either someone who understands what I am asking replies, or I'll just do more research on this subject on my own.
BTW: This is the first time I have ever lashed out at someone on a public forum.....but then again, you kinda deserve it don't you.
Last edited by jeff story (2009-10-11 23:56:19)

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