Startup Failure. Now complete death.

After my Dual 2GHz G5 froze and revved its fans all night as I slept, I tried powering it on the next morning after force quitting, but it wouldn't get past the "Starting Mac OSX" screen. The progress bar slowly crawled to completion, and continued spinning, and then nothing. It just wouldn't boot. The night prior I had attempted installing the latest security update and failed twice.
When tampering with the unit, removing a third-party firewire card that had preventing the G5 from sleeping for several months and had caused me to shut it down every time I was done with it - the G5 would ALWAYS freeze completely and go into "overdrive" mode where the fans went nuts whenever I left it unattended - I dropped the screw securing the firewire card into the G5 fan assembly at the rear of the unit.
In an effort to remove the screw, I attempted removing the fan assembly, assuming it would come as freely as the one in front of the processors. It didn't, and I think that my tugging at the wire attaching it to the steel divider might have suffered damage.
Now the unit's light, when plugged in, will immediately come on, without me trying to power it up. Then, if I press the power button, nothing happens.
I tried securing all components again and making sure everything was in its place. Still no luck. Did I kill this already problematic G5 that I love so much?

If you have retrieved all the foreign objects and checked all the connections as best you can in the area that saw the fiercest fighting - you could try the old faithful PMU reset
Disconnect all non-essential peripherals leaving just display, keyboard and mouse; unplug from the mains and leave for at least 30 mins; re-connect mains plug to G5(to earth the casing), then reset the PMU
http://macosg.com/group/viewtopic.php?t=5819&highlight=resetting+pmu
Note static precautions and the warning to press the button once only.
[you have to rotate the photo through 90 deg clockwise mentally - or lean your head to the left as you look at it...]
Does the PSU relay, low-down at the back of the G5, click when mains power is connected?
You have read all the things that were tried in the other post. But if the power light is on all the time, and the power button doesn't work... it sounds like AppleCare.

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I currently have a 100GB HD Machine is 1.67ghz + 2 GB Ram if anyone has any suggestions as to the type of hard drive brand I should buy please let me know. I will be doing the install myself.
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Amanda: If you are able to start the PB up in any way at all without a bootable CD or DVD inserted or a bootable external drive connected, then your hard drive isn't completely dead yet, and your OS isn't entirely hosed.
Starting up from a CD or DVD always produces lots of noises that the hard drive doesn't — those are normal for an optical drive. If you hear lots of unfamiliar noises when starting up from the internal hard drive (in Safe Mode, for example), or if you aren't able to start up from the hard drive at all, then the HD is either on the brink of total failure or already dead.
There are so many drives on the market today, and they are so similar and, in most cases, so inexpensive compared to two or three years ago, that it's very hard to recommend one in particular. Your original-equipment drive was 5400 RPM, and you'll want to replace it with a 5400 or 7200 RPM unit. Drives are currently available in sizes up to 160GB, and your last-generation Aluminum Powerbook can use any of the available sizes. Best current bang-for-the-buck deals are in the 80-120GB range; you still pay a considerable premium for a 160. The larger the drive's cache and the higher its rotational speed, the quicker it will be. A 7200 RPM drive will be slightly noisier and use slightly more energy than a 5400, but the differences are remarkably small.
Assuming you're in the USA, good places to survey the marketplace for new 2.5" ATA-6 (ATA 100) laptop hard drives are ZipZoomFly, NewEgg, and OWC.
People have widely disparate preferences between the offerings of different manufacturers. I've had good luck with IBM/Hitachi and Fujitsu drives, and bad luck with Western Digital. Your mileage may vary, as they say. Good luck!

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Hi guys,
I've got an iBook G3, running 10.3.9.
In December 2006, the logic board failed, so I bought a MacBook, because I didn't have time to be offline waiting weeks for Apple to replace the iBook's logic board.
After much badgering, Apple reluctantly replaced the iBook's logic board under the extended warranty program.
While the iBook was with the Apple repair store, they replaced the display for new as well, even though I didn't ask them to, and even though I wasn't charged for it.
I presume that was because the store discovered that the display was duff enough to be replaced under another extended warranty program.
When I got the "repaired" unit home, with a brand new logic board, and a brand new display, I turned it on, and it seemed to be working fine, so I turned it off, and continued to use my MacBook.
A few weeks ago, the second logic board on my MacBook failed (another long horror story entirely), so I began using the iBook for the first time since it had been "repaired" some six months earlier.
Almost immediately, the iBook began exhibiting a major problem, specifically that I'd be typing away, and suddenly the display would go black.
I could just about see the icons and documents on the screen, but the unit was unusable.
So I pulled restarts, full shutdowns, disk utility, zapped the PRAM, etc, all to no avail.
It seemed to be an intermittent problem.
For example, sometimes, from a cold start, the unit would work for two or three hours until the display went black.
Other times, I'd pull a cold start, and it would go straight to the black display.
By chance, I discovered that if I gave the iBook a shake, the display would come back on.
But then it would go black after a second or two.
And then with another shake, it would come back on for a second or two.
And then it would go black after a second or two.
And then with another shake, it would come back on, sometimes for a couple of hours at a time.
So I figured that it must be a cable which, during the installation of the logic board, and/or the new display, wasn't seated correctly by the technician.
I phoned Apple, and told them about it.
They said that because I had reported the issue beyond 90 days since the logic board had been replaced, it was no longer Apple's problem.
I explained to Apple that I hadn't used the iBook for six months, because I had a MacBook.
After much badgering, Apple has agreed to replace the logic board if it's faulty.
However, Apple has refused to replace the NEW display, even if that's also faulty.
Apple is also insisting that I have to pay all the labor charges.
Meanwhile, I've noticed that the iBook is now incredibly hot.
I mean, the MacBook is infamous for running hot, but this "repaired" iBook makes my MacBook feel like a block of ice by comparison.
I don't remember the iBook running so extremely hot before the "repair."
Which has made me notice that during the last few weeks, I've never heard the iBook's fan come on.
I presume that an iBook has a fan ?
Please confirm.
Therefore, another loose cable ?
Today, the display went black again, as usual.
So I gave the iBook a shake.
But this time, nothing happened.
No display.
No fan.
No hard drive spinning.
Just silent and dead.
What do you reckon, guys ?
Duff logic board ?
And/or duff display ?
And/or duff fan ?
And/or duff cabling by the technician ?
As far as I'm concerned, I don't see why I should have to pay for yet another repair, to correct hardware and/or workmanship which was so bad that after only three weeks of ACTUAL use since the "repair", the unit is now completely dead.
All opinions and advice gratefully received.
With thanks and best wishes,
Michael
London, England

Hi S,
Many thanks for your helpful and swift response.
I agree with you regarding the likelihood that these problems would have surfaced immediately during normal usage, regardless of how much or little time had passed since the repair.
As advised, I will inform Apple Customer Relations UK about the new developments.
Indeed, when I resubmit the iBook, I'll include a print-out of this discussion.
I agree with you about the fan.
Prior to the failure of the first logic board, I ran that iBook for YEARS, without noticing any heat issue.
Indeed, if there had been such incredible heat, then I'd have searched these discussion boards, and reported it to Apple HQ.
Therefore, the astonishing heat is definitely a new development since the "repair."
Consequently, I take on board your comments about the lack of a working fan since the "repair", which I shall also mention to Apple HQ.
As for running the Apple Hardware Test, the unit is completely dead.
The power cable is green, but the unit is now completely silent and black.
I also note your suggestions regarding the cable which connects the display to the rest of the unit, which I shall also mention to Apple HQ.
No repair sheet was ever given to me by the Apple Repair Centre (ARC).
Indeed, no receipt was ever given to me when I delivered the unit to the ARC, nor was any paperwork ever given to me when I collected the unit from the ARC.
However, Apple HQ can see on their screen that the logic board and display were both replaced for new by the ARC.
What else was and wasn't done by the ARC is a mystery.
I'll phone the ARC and ask for copies of any and all paperwork, so that I can submit it all to Apple HQ, which I note is your recommended option, rather than returning the unit to the ARC.
However, the complicating factor is that with the exception of the logic board, it is my understanding that Apple is denying any liability on any part of the "repaired" unit, including the brand new display.
If I understand Apple HQ correctly, they're now saying that all other hardware and labor costs will be mine.
I'm sure I could buy a WORKING second-hand iBook G3 for the same price as a repair, if not cheaper.
Therefore, perhaps I should return the unit to the ARC, and give them the opportunity to correct their previous workmanship, at their OWN cost.
Because as far as I'm concerned, the ARC had two customers during the repair: Apple and the end-user, as evidenced by the fact that the ARC has invoiced its first customer Apple for workmanship which was clearly not up to Apple's own standards, and the ARC has then delivered the unit to its second customer, the end-user.
In addition, regardless of Apple's 90 day warranty on repaired hardware, UK law includes the Sale of Goods Act 1979, and other relevant legislation: http://www.dti.gov.uk/consumers/fact-sheets/page38311.html
Furthermore, if the ARC is completely unhelpful, I could jump all over them, by writing to Apple HQ, with cc's to the UK editions of MacWorld, MacFormat, and MacUser magazines.
As advised, if the unit goes to Apple HQ, I will suggest that the unit is looked at carefully during disassembly, to see if errors were made during the ARC "repair."
I'm always polite when on the phone to Apple, because I love the company so much.
Indeed, even though during the last twelve months, I've been having very bad luck with the iBook, as well as with a MacBook which has exhibited so many problems that Apple has now agreed to replace old for new, I still love my Mac.
And joy, sweet joy, I've just seen on the TNT courier's tracker website, that my replacement MacBook, built by Apple in Singapore, then flown to Arnhem in Germany, then flown to Northampton UK, then delivered to Heathrow UK, left the Heathrow depot 30 minutes ago, for delivery to the customer.
And the sun is shining.
Thank you again for all your kind and wise advice.
With best wishes,
Michael
London, England

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