Sub contract settling
hi every one
ours is a sub contracting process where in we are not supposed to maintain Subcontract inforecord.
we are supposed to settle the vendor some conversion charges with respect to finished goods.
Is there any possibility that i can post directly to G/L Account without following all the process PR-PO-GR-IR for conversion charges.
ours is a sub contracting process
Can u tell me whether ur company/client or else external vendor
is doing sub contracting ?
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Sub contracting Process ( MTO)
Dear All,
One of the my client using Sub contractig process MTO.Defined process like
1. Create process order based on Sales order ( Auto PR generate)
2. Sub contracting purchase order creation agaisnt PR
3. Material consumption againt 261 Movement
4. GR for service expenses
5. Process settlement for 101 Finished goods.
Now my business would want consumption posting along with GR ! But we sre unable to transfer goods ( Sales order assigned stock ) to Vendor SC stock through 541 Movement type. Is there any special way to transfer the same ?
Rgds
SumaHi,
The process we have used is and suggested by SAP is-
Prerequisite:
-Create vendor's place as a storage location.
-assign 311 E,312E, 543 E to movt type grouping for subcontracting challan.
- Make vendor field(LIFNR) mandatory at MB1B 311 E .
Process:
1 Create PO for material. with item category L
2 transfer the goods through 311 E to storage location created for vendor's stock.
3 Create Subcontracting challan with reference to 311E material document.
4 Make GR after goods recieved from vendor.
5 Consumption will follow from storage location against PO.(need to give vendor's storage location for consuming material)
regards,
sujit borse
Edited by: SNB on Dec 13, 2010 10:18 AM -
Nominated Sub-contract processing in SAP?
Hi,
Nominated sub-contract is a common practice in construction industry. The definition is u201CThe Principal independently invites tenders for the work under a subcontract, negotiates the subcontract and directs the main contractor to enter into a subcontract with the Nominated Subcontractor selected on terms and conditions negotiated by the principalu201D. Below is some reference.
http://www.set.ait.ac.th/courses/ce7022/law/Contents/law_102.htm
http://www.constructionweblinks.com/Resources/Industry_Reports__Newsletters/Sep_05_2005/nomi.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subcontractor
http://www.hklii.org/hk/legis/en/ord/57/s43a.html
http://www.cmguide.org/archives/315
Assuming our company is the principal that will award contract and sub-contract to main-contractor and nominated sub-contractor respectively, and Payment will be settled in the main contract?
Can SAP support the process from initiation to issue of sub-contract to nominated sub-contractor while ensuring no subsequent goods receipt, LIV, payment?
How to maintain the relationship between main and sub-contract in SAP so that any variation order of sub-contract can be reflected in the main contract?
Regards,
DennisHi Dennis, there's a special addition (industry solution) in SAP for Construction; you may read more here:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_dimp50/helpdata/EN/ed/f27438bb4d11d2b49d006094b93006/content.htm
Br,
Mario -
Planned delivery cost & sub-sequent settlements
hi ,
what is meant by planned delivery cost ?
what is meant by sub-sequent settlements ?
when they are useful in MM
regardsHi
<b>Planned delivery costs</b> are the costs agreed with the vendor or goods supplier before the purchase order is created. You enter these as conditions in the purchase order.
Planned delivery costs can be differentiated as follows:
Origin of Costs
Freight charges
Customs charges
Calculation of Costs
Fixed amount, irrespective of delivered quantity
Quantity-dependent amount
<b>Subsequent adjustment</b>
In sub contracting scenario After the subcontractor had delivered the ordered material , you post the goods receipt to the subcontract PO. The system determines the necessary components for each purchase order item and creates for each component a goods issue item with the quantity that was determined in the purchase order
If the vendor informs you after these postings that a greater or smaller quantity of the subcontracting components was actually consumed than planned in the purchase order, you must post a subsequent adjustment to correct the component consumption.
If the component is a by-product, you must post the corrected by-product receipt (excess receipt) or by-product issue (short receipt)
Similary there is a subsequent credit / debit carried out when an additional invoice or credit memo is received for a transaction that has already been invoiced in LIV process
Thanks & regards
Kishore -
Multi-level sub-contracting involving multiple vendors
I need complete process to understand for following sub-contracting scenarios.
Customer is purchaseing materials from vendor1 with an instruction to supply it to vendor2 for further processinng. Vendor2 returns the materials to customer. Customer needs to create PO to vendor1 and subcontracting PO to vendor2 so that their payment can be settled through IR from vendors.->1-> Your Plant will raise Raw material PO on vendor V1 . This PO must have "SC vendor" ticked along with the V2 vendor specified in the Delivery Address tab in PO item .
-> 2: Your Plant will raise a Subcontracting PO -item category L , to Vendor V2 . (this PO will have the Parent component which the V2 vendor is going to give back to you. ) . the BOM of the Parent component will have the Chile specified as the Raw material you buy from V1.
->3-> When V1 delivers material to V2, you(or someone at V2 location with system access) will do MIGO against the Raw material PO . this will generate a material document with movement type 101-O , and the raw materials will be avaiable at "Suncontractors stock " with special stock "O" which can be seen in MBLB .
-> Create jobwork challan against the 101-O material document in J1IF01.
->4-> when the V2 processes the components and sends you the Parent material , you will do MIGO against the subcontracting PO .
->5-> Reconcile Jobwork challan in j1IFQ against above MIGO Doc number. -
Creation of Sub Contracting PO through Maintenance Order
Dear All,
I am aware of the sub contracting indicator to be cliked in the maintenance order in order for the system to generate a Sub Contracting PO through Maintenance Order. However I am unable to see this indicator in maintenance order fields.
Is there anything that I am missing in customising settings or is this related to activation of any business function sets.
I am working in ECC 6.0 EhP 5.0.
Need your help / inputs so as to resolve my issue.
Thanks in advance.
JKHi Tehsin,
Thanks for ur response.
However this is something I am aware of. The settings suggested by you will automatically generate a PR with Account Assignemnt Category as 'Order' (F) & Item Category as 'Service' (D) combination.
I am looking for the auto generation of PR through the maintenance order with Account Assignemnt Category as 'Order' (F) & Item Category as 'Sub Contracting' (L) combination.
Looking forward to hear from all.
Thanks in advance
JK. -
Report For Sub Contract Material
Dear Experts,
Is there any standard report for finding the details of the subcontract.
I tried through ME2O, MBLB where I am not getting the report I wanted.
I want to take a montly report for all the subcontract work given to the vendor. (The work is completed )
Please help. ThanksThanks,
In ME2L I am able to get the details, but the problem is;
I want to get a report which will give me the full details of the Sub COntract PO.
Example. I created a Sub COntract PO for Fineshed Material A. For makng Material A I need to supply Material B, Material C to the Sub Contract Vendor.
I want to know by the end of the month
1) The Subcontract PO
2) Final Material (Material A)
3) Raw materials Supplied to vendor (Material B & Material C)
4) Status of the order
5) Material A given back to me
6) remaining Material (Material A)
Please help. -
my client running fg sub contracting (electro plating )cycle through the MRP
after return from vendor with mvt type 105 (543) i check document list with MB51. i found following g/l account effects :
SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
SFG-inventory account = 323055
for sub contract account = 602130
Inventory account = 320010
Costs of goods mfg = 602200
but if do whole sub contracting cycle without MRP i can see effect in following G/L a/C:
Manual Cycle .
Inventory account = 320010
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
Price Differance Account = 602155
change in stock = 603010
Sub Contract expense = 603000
SFG-inventory account = 323055
SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
my question is why this differance comes ?
if i want gl accounts hit by manual process in MRP process what changes to be made ?Hi,
Price diffrences arise during valuation @ GR if the material is managed at standard price in MMR.
Also there is one more setting in customizing that for a plant that price differences should or not be posted during GR.
spro-IMGMMInv MGmtGR--price differences for subcontracting at GR
Regards,
Deepak. -
my client running fg sub contracting (electro plating )cycle through the MRP
after return from vendor with mvt type 105 (543) i check document list with MB51. i found following g/l account effects :
SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
SFG-inventory account = 323055
for sub contract account = 602130
Inventory account = 320010
Costs of goods mfg = 602200
but if do whole sub contracting cycle without MRP i can see effect in following G/L a/C:
Manual Cycle .
Inventory account = 320010
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
Price Differance Account = 602155
change in stock = 603010
Sub Contract expense = 603000
SFG-inventory account = 323055
SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
my question is why this differance comes ?
if i want gl accounts hit by manual process in MRP process what changes to be made ?Hi
Kindly check with the following:
In customizing for that plant price differences should or not be posted during GR.
SPRO->IMG>MM>Inv MGmt>GR-->price differences for subcontracting at GR
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Error while doing MIGO for a sub-contracted item
Hello to Everybody,
I am facing below problem -
Error : Incorrect CCtr <Cost Center Code> with this account (CCtr category must=D) for
<Item Code> , while doing MIGO. (for receiving sub-contracted item from vendor).
May I request for possible solution to above error ?
regards,Dear Sanjay,
You can determine the cost object for the posting of the costs in the transaction OKB9.
Following thread should resolve this issue:
Re: cost of subcontracting
Regards,
Naveen. -
Pricing Error in Sub Contracting Material
Dear Experts,
We are executing monthly costing run on plant level. There are some sub contracting materials system issues a message that '' No Price found'' while there is standard price maintained in materials master. what could be possible reason...Please suggest.....
Regards,
waqasDear Umar,
Thanks for your support,
I went through this post before posting my question. I know SCN Rules not new to SCN . The solutions suggested in the post are not feasible for my problem. I already tested this. All Master Data exists in my case on CO PP and MM side.
Please suggest the solution if u know!
Thanks........... -
Quantity reconcilation of sub-contracting challan error
Hi Experts,
I am facing problem while doing Quantity reconcilation of sub-contracting challan.
Challan material is different from material document
Message no. 8I572
Thanks in advancehi..
please go to spro>log general>tax on goods movement>india>business transaction>subcontracting>maintain movment type group
and maintain as given
0001 102
0001 122
0001 541
0001 544 O
0002 542
0002 543 O
and
Also This can be solved as under. ( check for following also)
You will have to activate PO number as a required field for 541 mvmt.
Materials Management -> Inventory Management and Physical Inventory ->
Goods Issue / Transfer Postings -> Define Screen Layout.
For movement type 541 the purchase order field has to be maintained as
an optional entry or as a required entry here. (under normal condition it will be suppressed)
This has not been done, otherwise the error message would appear as the mseg-ebeln would not hold the PO number.
After doing this carryout a new cycle. you will not get any error.
Edited by: Kedar Kulkarni on Nov 12, 2009 6:06 PM -
Run time error while reconcillation for sub contracting challan
Hi,
Gurus please solve this issue ,
When i am trying to reconcillation for sub contracting challan against the GR DOC number.When we are assing the quantity for challan and save at that time i am getting abap dumpAnalyse in ST22
U may take abaper help -
Sub-contracting Proclem..?
Hi all
I have created the subcontract challan .
While doing the reconcilation its showing error as challan as already completed,
But still I have not reconciled in system. Only I have done the 542 movement for material.
so can anybody explain me what might be the cause to show the status as completed before reconlilation.
Regards
sap-mmhi
check the status of the Sub-contracting Challan. -
Sub-contracting challan reconcilation..?
hi all
I have problem in reconcilation of callan,
While doing reconcilation , its showing error as challan already completed..
But still the challan is not reconciled, in status its showing completed.
Thanks
sap-mmhi
check the status as "Completed" for the Sub-contracting challan.
also Check in SAP OSS for any notes to be applied
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