Sub contracting GR without Job

Hi,
In case of subcontracting how to handle scenario where material is received without any job. We were sending the raw material and receiving the sfg.In case, vendor returns the raw material itself how to handle this. How to GR the raw material and excise implications.
Second , query -
In case of multiple 57f4 sent in one PO. How to know at time of GRN, against which Subcon challan it has to be GRN.

How to GR the raw material and excise implications.
Receive raw material using transaction MB1B,542 movement.
There will be no excise implications if returned within 180 days.
After 180 days ,reverse challan & recredit excise as per procedure,finally reverse recredit.
In case of multiple 57f4 sent in one PO.
How to know at time of GRN, against which Subcon challan it has to be GRN.
Generally refer subcontracting challan number & year on goods receipt(MIGO) &
do reconcillation of material document with challan or challans using J1IFQ.

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my client running fg sub contracting (electro plating )cycle through the MRP
after return from vendor with mvt type 105 (543) i check document list with MB51. i found following g/l account effects :
SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
SFG-inventory account = 323055
for sub contract account = 602130
Inventory account = 320010
Costs of goods mfg = 602200
but if do whole sub contracting cycle without MRP i can see effect in following G/L a/C:
Manual Cycle .
Inventory account = 320010
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
Price Differance Account = 602155
change in stock = 603010
Sub Contract expense = 603000
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SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
my question is why this differance comes ?
if i want gl accounts hit by manual process in MRP process what changes to be made ?

Hi,
Price diffrences arise during valuation @ GR if the material is managed at standard price in MMR.
Also there is one more setting in customizing that for a plant that price differences should or not be posted during GR.
spro-IMGMMInv MGmtGR--price differences for subcontracting at GR
Regards,
Deepak.

Sub Contracting Process

my client running fg sub contracting (electro plating )cycle through the MRP
after return from vendor with mvt type 105 (543) i check document list with MB51. i found following g/l account effects :
SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
SFG-inventory account = 323055
for sub contract account = 602130
Inventory account = 320010
Costs of goods mfg = 602200
but if do whole sub contracting cycle without MRP i can see effect in following G/L a/C:
Manual Cycle .
Inventory account = 320010
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
Price Differance Account = 602155
change in stock = 603010
Sub Contract expense = 603000
SFG-inventory account = 323055
SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
my question is why this differance comes ?
if i want gl accounts hit by manual process in MRP process what changes to be made ?

Hi
Kindly check with the following:
In customizing for that plant price differences should or not be posted during GR.
SPRO->IMG>MM>Inv MGmt>GR-->price differences for subcontracting at GR
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Job Work (Reverse Scenario of Sub Contracting)

Hi Everybody,
Here is one scenario, I am sure, it will be mapped in Standard SAP, the scenario is like i am a job worker, I take the raw materials from the customer and create production order and use those raw materials supplied by the customers and charge the labour in the sales order, some times i even use some components from my stock for that also i will charge to the customer in the sales order, this is just opposite to sub contracting where i m purcahsing the labour and sending the raw materials out, this is the reverse i m taking the raw material and selling my labour, so i m basically the sub contract vendor
I want to take these material in my stock without value, at the same time i cannot create this materials as non valuated type as these material are used as valuated in other plants
If any one have any suggestion how to do in standard sap please let me know
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Edited by: Husain Husain on Feb 24, 2009 7:31 PM

Hi Everybody,
Here i have one scenario, I am sure it will be mapped in Standard SAP, the scenario is like my company does job work( Reverse subcon) for others, we take the raw materials from the customer and create production and use those raw materials supplied by the customers and charge for the processing in the sales order, some times we even add some components(Products) from my stock for that also i will charge to the customer in the sales order.
We are only billing for additional components and processing & Packing charges.
Please tell me, how can i map the scenario whether i have to create to separate sales document for selling product and processing charges. Selling product case even store issue components to products therefore no delivery.
If any one have any suggestion on how to do in standard sap please let me know.
If any doubts about the scenario please let me know.
Thanks in advance
Prashant

Sub contract job

Hi,
Is possible to sub contract job in same company code. If possible the how it can be done .
Pl help me .

Rajesh
Create one plant as a vendor in same company code and maintain Special procurement key 30 in the material master.
Then you can do subcontracting process in the same company code
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Sub-contract without BOM

Hi
How to create sub-contract without BOM..We want to create a subcontract for a customer return finished product .Even this Product have bom.We dont want to send any components with the FP.We want to send some service materials with this FM.How to do this in SAP?
Thanks
Nick

hi Nick,
have not tried in one company code, any way you can try this with creating another plant as subcontracting vendor & process in the same way how you process for sub contracting.
1) Create plant as sub-contracting vendor
2) create po with item category L
3) send components
4) receive materials.
but since it is within a company code check for legality involved with FI, you can customize special transaction key for this may be with movement types since it is within a company code, that is the reason i asked you is it within a co.code
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I am trying to do goods receipt for the inbound delivery /shipping notification created for a sub -contracting Purchase order. The Finished product and the component part are batch managed, When I try to perform PGR in VL32N , I am getting a blank screen as error message and Goods receipt is not getting triggered . I checked for OSS note and found 645119 close to my issue but not an exact match . We are in ECC 6.0 with EHP 4. Can some one clarify whether it is possible to post GR through inbound delivery for a Subcon Purchase order .
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Hi, The issue may be due to this - the component is batch managed but the batch data is blank in the component list of the Purchase Order Item. Or a batch is maintained in the PO item component list but the stock for the same batch is not available with Vendor, i.e. stock with some other batch may be available.
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Sub Contracting with Excise

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Hi Kamlesh Vagal,
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MTO Discrete Manufacturing with multiple plants and sub-contracting

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I am facing a problem, pl. help me out.
My Scenario is as follows:
I am having 4 plants with Make-To-Order Discrete Manufacturing scenarieo .
Suppose to manufacture a particular Product , there are 10 operations.The first 4 operations are carried out in Plant A, 5th and 6th carried out in Plant B, Operations 7 is Sub-contracted to a Vendor. After the job-work from Vendor, the job returns back to Plant A and the remaining operations are carried out in Plant A.
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Sub-contracting with excise duty..?

Hi all
can anybody explain me the sub-contracting process with excise duty , here we are going create excise invoice(J1IS instead of sub-contract challan) and what abt material document for sending out materials
whether v an use excise invoice as material transfer document to jobber place or what.
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hi ,
you can try:
1.Do the MB1A with 202 mvt type to get back the material from the Work location Cost center to Storage location.
2.Create the Subcontracting PO without payment of excise duty ie., with subcontracting challan. Here the components provided to the vendor & material at item overview should be the same.
3.Do the MB1B - 541 Mvt type transfer posting.
4.Create the subcontracting challan w r t material doc by J1IF01
5.Do the MIGO for SC PO.
6.Reconcile the SC Challan.
7.If the qty is fully reconciled then you can complete the challan.
8.Do the LIV for SC PO.
9.Do the MB1A with 201 MVT type to issue the material to the Work location.

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Dear Gurus,
Client requirement as follows:
Client generally send different material to sub-contracting and will get back after job work. Now he want to analysis the pending material with vendors like each material is pending how many days at contractors. Any standar report is available for this.
One more can we analysis how much time taking for doing a job by particual vendorl. Like X vendor history on his job works.
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Dear Viswanath,
Thax for your help. I already tired MBLB but in this date of sent is not coming.
I need report like MBLB with date of send also. So i will ask y this much time require to complete the job.
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while doing MB1b ( for sub contract)
error is
G/L account 799999 does not exist in company code AAA
i tried
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Hi,
For subcontracting process you need to set up following
If Material has Price Control as "V" (MAP)
(BSX) Stock A/c of Assembly - Dr
(BSV) Change in Subcon Stock - Cr
(FRL) Subcontracting Charges - Dr
(WRX) GR/IR Clearing A/c - Cr
(BSX) Stock A/c of Components - Cr
(GBB-VBO) Consumption A/c of Components - Dr
If Material has Price Control as "S" (Std. Price)
If Material is having Price Control as "S" then Price Difference A/c will also in picture.
This depends on configuration; SPRO > MM > Inventory Management and Physical Inventory > Goods Receipt > Price Differences for Subcontract Orders at Goods Receipt
Price Differences for Subcontract Orders at Goods Receipt
In this step, you configure for each valuation area whether price differences are generated for a Subcontract order at the time of a goods receipt if the manufactured material is managed at standard price and the standard price varies from the receipt value (externally performed service + value of components + delivery costs).
Example
Finished product: $400 (value at standard price)
Subcontract order:
o Ext. service : $250
o Components : $100
Posting schema without price differences:
Stock account FERT : 400 +
Stock change : 400 -
GR/IR clearing acct : 250 -
External service acct : 250 +
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Consumption account : 100 +
Posting schema with price differences:
Stock account FERT : 400 +
Stock change : 350 -
Price difference : 50 -
GR/IR clearing acct : 250 -
External service acct : 250 +
Compon. stock account : 100 -
Consumption account : 100 +
And cost center is mandatory for subcontracting process
the accounts for the BSX FRL and GBB-VOB needs the cost elements
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Sub contract po coproduct issue

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In sub contracting process one(raw material) material is supplying to vendor .During single punching the process we are getting 2 products & scrap.For this process we are paying some amount to sub contractor.
While raising the Sub contarctor PO, raised aganist one product .Here iam able to maintain job charges for one product only .But at the same time it should apporinate to coproduct also.
I have maintained a bom for one product (header material) & i maintained second product as coproduct,raw material & scrap .In bom & material master for that material i maintained as coproduct
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I need sub contract in sales.
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Customer sent material to plant they need some process in our plant for that I need scenario and configuration.
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Hi Dharmananda rao
Sub Contracting Cycle :
(1) You have a material that can be procured externally, and you have maintained BOM with components. Any waste generated and received during subcontracting process can be maintained as component with negative quantity.
(2) You create a subcontracting PO (PO with Item Category L). You can also maintain Purchase Info Record for Subcontract category for material and subcontractor.
(3) You make a transfer posting to issue components for SC PO. Material is sent to subcontractor. As material remains under your ownership, system does not make any value entry. But quantity is shown as "Material Provided to Vendor"
(4) You receive finished material against SC-PO. You also specify components consumed in manufacturing of finished goods. Additionally, if you have negative components in BOM, now you'll also receive subcontracting by-products. There are three events, so three accounting entries are generated:
DR FG Stock/ SC By-Product Stock
CR Change in Stock (FG/ SC By-Product )
(for finished goods received)
DR Subcontracting Charges
CR GR/IR Clg
(for moneys payable to Subcontractor)
DR Consumption (Components)
CR Change in Stock (FG/ SC By-Product )
(material provided to Vendor is now charged to expense)
5) You do the IV for SC Invoice, and the process is complete.
Process of Subcontract in MM :
Sub-contract business process:
You want to buy material from the supplier (processed material/ assembled item) , but for some reason (quality of certain item / price ) you will give some component to vendor .
Vendor shall process the item / use the item provided & supply the final item.
SAP process:
1.Create the finished goods material code.
2.Maintain the BOM for the material.
3.Create PO with item category as "L" .
4.Issue material to vendor with movement type 541
5.Receive the material against the PO with movement type 101.
6.MIRO to account for vendor's invoice for the service charge& material used by him.
Can anybody tell me how a process has to be given to subcontracting?
Suppose, I have 3 operations 1)weaving 2)dyeing 3)cutting & packing
if no 2 process (i.e Dyeing) has to be given to subcontracting, what process should i follow ?
The following process to be followed for subcontracting.
1. Item code(material master) to be created at the stage of before dyeing.
2. Item code(material master) to be created after Dyeing as subcontracted item.(F30)
3. Bill of material to becreated for the material(2) calling for material(1)
4. Inforecord and source list to be created for material(2) with the corresponding vendor
5. PO to be released for material (2)
6.Along with PO the material(1) to be issued to vendor
7.On receipt of material when GR is made the stock with vendor will get updated.
How to Create a Subcontract Order?
To create a subcontract order, proceed as follows:
Enter the material you want to order and the item category for subcontracting (L) in the order item.
Press ENTER to display the screen for component processing.
Enter the components that the vendor requires to manufacture the product.
Please note:
You do not need to enter the date required for the components. This date is proposed by the system when you press ENTER.
It is calculated as follows:
Delivery date of the item - Planned delivery time
If you do not want the quantity of the components to be changed if the order quantity of the end product is altered, set the indicator Fixed quantity (column F).
You can determine whether the components are available on the date required by selecting Edit -> Availability check.
If you entered a bill of material as the material in the subcontract order, the components are created automatically.
If you want to determine the components in the bill of material at a later date (for example, if the bill of material is subsequently changed), choose Item -> Component -> New BOM explosion. The existing components are deleted and redetermined in the bill of material.
Save the purchase order.
When you print the purchase order, the components are printed per order item
Subcontracting - Key Points
Special Procurement Process.
Item category: L
Order type: NB
In info record vendor should be maintained as subcontractor.
Vendor (Subcontractor) receives the components used to manufacture a finished product directly from your company or through third party.
Your company should place a purchase order for the finished product. In this manually you can enter the required individual components or it can be determined via the explosion of BOM (if exists).
Stock check at vendor level: ME2O
Company stock check: MMBE
GR for individual components through movement type: 501 or 561 (if with out PO or without reference).
GI to subcontracting vendor: through movement type 541.
GR from sub contracting vendor: through movement type: 101
Movement type 543 is displayed to cancel the material cost account.
If the subcontracting order has to be generated through materials planning,the special procurement key has to be set in MRP 2 screen.
- To create the Subcon Info Record : Tcode ME11 - Info Category - Click Subcontracting
- To create Material BOM : Tcode CS01
- With the Info and Material Setup, you can then create the Purchase Order in Tcode ME21N
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Sub contracting - ME2O - with delivery

hi all,
To stock transfer against SC PO using Trn ME2O, we have 2 option. one is with in IM(Post Goods Issue) the other is using shipping(create delivery).
Wat r the pre requisite setting to create delivery. Plz list the T.Codes sequentially.

hi,
To create Subcontracting challan:
J1IF01 - Creating sub contracting Chelan
J1IFQ - Reconciliation for Chelan
J1IF13 - after receiving all items
Subcontracting without Payment of Duty
Creation of Subcontracting PO (ME21N)
Transfer Posting of Components to Subcontractor (Mvmt Type - 541) (MB1B/ME2O/MIGO)
Creation of Subcontracting Challan w.r.t. Transfer Posting Doc (J1IF01)
Goods Receipt w.r.t. Subcontracting PO and Refer Subcontracting Challan at the time of GR (MIGO) {GR with 101 and auto consumption of components with 543 movement}
Reconciliation of Subcontracting Challan (J1IFQ)
Completion of Subcontracting Challan (J1IF13)
Generation of Annexure IV (J1IFR)
Note: - In this case, you have to maintain the Assessable Value for the Components to be supplied to Vendor in J1ID and also Excise Tax rates for the Chapter IDs linked with these components. So during J1IF01, system will take the Assessable Value as Excise base Value and calculates the Excise Duties by taking Excise Tax Rates.
Subcontracting under Full Payment of Duty
Creation of Subcontracting PO (ME21N)
Transfer Posting of Components to Subcontractor (MB1B/ME2O/MIGO)
Creation of Outgoing Excise Invoice w.r.t. Transfer Posting Document (J1IS) - Used to send the components to Subcontractor's. Here 57F4 Challan is not created.
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