Subcontracting Challan Completed before GR and 180 days
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This is with reference to the subcontracting issue
While receiving subcontracting material we have found the problem that while referring the subcontracting annexure no. at MIGO the message was shown as u201Creconciliation already completedu201D after checking we have found that may 2008 the challan was completed.
we need to close or reverse the challans to the actual position.
Without doing Goods receipt and before 180 days if challan is completed, how it is possible then what is the solution to do GR
Regards
Kedar
Hi,
First check the Challan (in transaction J1IF13) & check the material documents to which the challan has been reconcilled.
1) If any of these document assignment is wrong, then go to transaction J1IFQ (Reconcile challan). Enter the material document wrongly assigned & the challan number. Click on button Delete Assignment. Then you can reconcile the the challan to material document.
2) If these documents are correct, then check the correct Challan number to which the material document is to be reconcilled.
3) If the challan is not available, then possibly, you have not posted the challan when you transferred the material to the cub-contractor. In this case no need to assigne any challan to the material document.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Prashant
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