Subsequent Debit / Credit in MIRO

Hi,
I have a non-GR based PO. I posted the following document using MIRO
1) Invoice: Q=10, Amount = 100 Dr. Expense 100 Cr. Vendor 100
2) Sub Deb Q= 2, Amount = 15 Dr. Expense 15 Cr. Vendor 15
In the PO History it shows both lines correctly with the right quantity and amounts.
However, the totals are: Quantity = 12, Amount = 115. From what I have read, the total quantity should show 10. Is this correct? Will appreciate your suggestions.
Thanks
Kapil

hi
i think u should get different summetions as per the transaction say for LIv u should get 10 and for SDl u should get separate 2
now try changing the view (button left to the refresh button)
use basic list view or clearing view
regards
kunal

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A subsequent debit/credit changes the total invoice value of a purchase order item; the total invoice quantity remains unchanged. Therefore, only a value-based update of the purchasing transaction takes place. There is no quantity-based
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second invoice for the difference.)
2. Subsequent Credit :- You must enter a credit memo as a subsequent credit if a purchase order item was invoiced at too high a price and you have now received a credit memo. (Example: A vendor has inadvertently invoiced you at too high a price and then sends a credit memo for the difference.)
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A subsequent debit/credit cannot refer to a particular invoice.
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to all SAP Guru,
Account Postings Made when an Invoice Is Posted as a Subsequent Debit:
PO- 100 Piece @ 10 Rs
GR- 50 Piece
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Stock Account- 500+
GR/IR Account- 500-
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Stock account- 50+
GR/IR account- 720+
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GR/IR Account- 30+
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At Invoice- How stock account Dr.with 50, GR/IR Dr. with 720 Came........
& At Subsequent Debit- How Stock Account Dr.with 75, GR/IR Dr. with 30, came.....
plz sir/mam help me out..bcoz i always get confuse in account posting
And Same plz give me example of Subsequent Credit that how
Account Postings Made when an Invoice Is Posted as a Subsequent Credit:
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At invoice-
Stock account- 50+
GR/IR account- 720+
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Stock Account- 75+
GR/IR Account- 30+
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In case of vendor had given us credit note with relevant to particular for which we had already completed the invoice verification and payment also paid.
In this case what document should I use i.e credit memo, subsequent credit memo or subsequent debit memo?
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