Sunray Deficiencies

hi,
i hope this is an ok place to post this - u couldnt find a sunray forum at Sun.
from my experience so far i've come across the following deficiencies with the sunray architecture/software that tend
to impede it's widespread acceptance -
(a) no support for the common usb devices out there, i.e. a school was given a batch of
usb scanners as a gift but couldn't use them - of course the point was raised if they were a
windows lab they would be able to.
is there a list of usb devices supported by sunrays? in particular are there any scanners and digital cameras and some
basic capture software that works with the sunrays?
(b) pretty much only networked postscript or PCL (with some extra ghostcript setup if i remember correctly)
are easily compatible.
(c) is there an evolution binary package available for solaris 8/9/gnome in a sunray environment that works?
a working bianry of the evolution connector with sunone calendar?
(d) to support a large couple of labs where flash is used extensively (which in schoosl for example it is)
places a huge load on the sunray architetcure so it becomes too expensive to buy the server power required.
(e) if they absolutely do want to run windows apps then they have to fork for a windows terminal server
(hence increasing cost to deploy). when i worked at universities, teaching staff would often insist on
windows apps being made available to common use laboratories.
(f) some clients complain that solaris skills are too hard to gain and source staff "cheaply enough that know"
compared to windows. personally i dont agree
(anyone who knows linux for example should be able to pikcup learn solaris).
just some problems i've noticed with the architecture that i've posted here because i'm interested in
hearing other people's experiences (perhaps there are answers to these questiosn i just wasn't aware of) :)
don't get me wrong overall i think it's a great system - just a few niggles/problems that i see stopping it's
widespread adoption in certain environments.

There are no agents for the SunRay software as far as I know. However, that's not to say you can't create a highly available architecture for SunRay users.
Obviously, internally we use SunRays (I'm writing this from a SunRay at home) and we have highly available infrastructure. I think the general approach is to have highly available home directories and then mount those onto one or more SunRay servers. If a SunRay server fails, the users can log onto another SunRay server.
There might be an architecture whitepaper somewhere - see if there are any SunRay forums (fora) and ask there.
Regards,
Tim
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